Banned for life from English Amiga Board for NO specified reason - Appeal?

[SpeedGeek]

Congratulations on the ban. Wear it as a badge of honor. Me 2.

I'm waiting for kolla to chime in here next. 

Now, in regards to the "Badge of Honor" club:
 
On EAB members are banned for serious infraction(s) of the EAB rules, it really is that simple. In most cases, at least one warning will be given but some cases will result in an instant ban.   

I'm not going to discuss the specifics of Foebane's case, but there were 2 infractions within a 2-3 month time period. He may have not been given an explicit "Next Time You Will Be Banned Warning" that he seems to think he should have been given, but he was fully aware that his offensive behavior had come to the mods attention.

BTW, I'm not the mod who banned him either. I'm only a Forum mod on EAB and it's the Global mods which actually do the banning there.

P.S. If you think it's tough on EAB, then try Amibay for a change. You can get banned there for no rules infraction of any kind under Amibay's "Common Sense" ban policy. 
   
 

[SpeedGeek]

No it's not - no at all, it's enough to just be repetitive.

I did nothing serious to get banned, not at all. Once the "troll stamp" has been cast on you, it is used as excuse for just about anything - "Oh he is just a troll". It was written by certain people (who are not banned btw) that I've been using multiple accounts (untrue), that I was already banned on multiple forums already (untrue at the time), that I have psychologial issues (huh, 'cause everyone's a shrink? No, not at all) and more personal attack nonsense.

There is a tendency in this community that people fall into "camps", where certain "teams" and their "leaders" are glorified beyond what is healthy. It's not unique to Amiga, but this community is so tiny that this social concept is almost purified without much of the complexity found elsewhere. When an alpha-nerd says "troll", the geek followers ("minions") are only happy to act as a mob, across multiple forums and whatever. But it doesn't work in the long run, the world is larger than these bubbles, and technical problems don't vanish just because you get rid of the "trolls" that have been pointing them out. And sometimes alpha-nerds just pull the plug and sign off, leaving the "minions" in confusion, and the projects are left in disarray.

I'm not going to comment on the specifics of your case either. But I was one of the (not banned members) who called you a troll and (not surprisingly) there were many others too.

You had clearly perfected and demonstrated the technique of indirect or implied trolling. Always finding a suggestive or subtle way to turn the discussion negative.

As far as the allegation of having multiple EAB accounts, I doubt it was ever taken seriously by any of the mods. It's actually possible to either prove or disprove this in most cases.

As far as the matter of psychological issues, you have once again underestimated the expertise of the EAB moderating staff:

https://eab.abime.net/member.php?u=46386

P.S. Don't worry this is a troll friendly forum and you are welcome here.
   

[SpeedGeek]

Of course there were, the same ones, again and again, that’s what I wrote. I’ve been around long enough to know how this works.

You still don't seem to understand that it was your own behavior (again and again) which invited this response. But regardless of how many complaints were made against you, in the end the mods made their own determination on those complaints.   

Not for nothing - I’m not negative by default, but when certain Amiga projects again and again turn into shitshows, it’s hard to remain overly positive.

If you don't like a certain Amiga project and you offer a brief, fair-minded and honest criticism that's one thing. But you all to often embarked on a much more destructive and repetitive marketing "Shitshow" against the projects you dislike... and that's exactly how you earn a negative reputation by default.

I am talking about accusations repeatedly made by other forum members, without any mods lifting an eye over that. And I can imagine there is a certain overlap with those who leave complaints.

Now, why I am not surprised that you failed to win any sympathy, for any unproven accusations made against you? In any case, it proves my point that the mods ignored these accusations in making their own determination on these various complaints.

The way you and ThoR throw the troll term at each other… symptomatic.

Don't you mean guest11527 (e.g. the anonymous version of ThoR)? Anyway, it seems that for a short time at least, you were both kindred spirits.

IIRC you were happy to reference him to attack my FastCache040+ coding project (on EAB) in the very early stage of it's development. Don't worry, I won't attempt to change your negative opinion of my project.

However, it's interesting to note that you and he apparently had a falling out when he decided to help Hyperion (the Entertainer) become the heroic savior of our beloved Amiga OS.    

[SpeedGeek]

Wow who runs this board.... i Started making some products in Canada for sale on my website for users in Canada i was thinking i could help by offering some services or posting something to one of the threads....
And BAM lifetime ban no warnings nothing.
Not a very friendly website i don't recall it being this snobby in the 80s yea you got banned but for a period of time or even got a warning.
Just shows when you give some people power how they let it go to their heads.
Ill sell all the Pistorm32s i want....

Unfortunately, there has been an increase in SPAM activity recently on EAB. If you created a new account and your first few posts were adverts or you posted adverts in the wrong sub-forum you would likely be identified as spammer and instantly banned.

If you can provide the EAB user name, then I will try to find out if this was the reason for the ban in this particlar case.     

[SpeedGeek]

@miggyretro

IIRC the banned member Jpor was actively trolling against RetropassionUK. Jpor created multiple EAB accounts to continue this activity and one of those accounts was using the miggyretro alias.

So, it appears that you selected the wrong user name at just the wrong time. 

[SpeedGeek]

I've posted a thread on EAB to bring this matter to the Global mods attention.
I don't know if the account would be be unbanned or if you will need to create an account with a different user name. 

The money from member contributions goes directly to RCK and it's used to pay for web hosting services and site maintenance. RCK probably does not even know about the issue or the reason why you were banned.   

[SpeedGeek]

The banned miggyretro account was registered anonymously with a reported location in the UK. So, the EAB moderating staff does not have confidence that you are not Jpor.

All you have is an opportunity to demonstrate otherwise. If your worried about RetropassionUK trying to get you banned again you can register under a different user name. Then after you have demonstrated that your a responsible member, you can request that the name be changed to miggyretro. 

[SpeedGeek]

@Thread

Like I mentioned in a previous post. If you think EAB is tough then try Amibay:

https://forum.amiga.org/index.php?topic=76404.msg858819

NOTE:
In this case Flop did commit an infraction of the Amibay rules. The reason he was not given any warning is because of Amibay's "Zero Tolerance" ban policy.   

[SpeedGeek]

I disagree - he was warned and AmiBay rules clearly state you are only allowed one account.

The rules are there to help protect buyers and sellers alike.

He was warned exactly when? Do you expect him to remember in perfect detail the Amibay rules which existed when he created his first account 15-20 years ago? He stated he could not even remember his user name or password.

Did the Amibay staff member who banned him consider his request to merge his two accounts into one as a responsible effort to comply with the Amibay rules?

Of course not, and just another case of "Common Sense" failure on Amibay.