Amiga Accounting Software

[matt3k]

Curious what accounting software was written for the Amiga?  I have compiled and tested a list and was wondering what was out there...

So far only Easy Ledger (1 + 2) is the only one with subledgers for AP and AR that I have found.  Does agings and billing, etc.  Haven't finished testing it yet.  

All the other ones seem to be for home use...
Phasar is decent for home with budgets use but the reporting is limiting.
CheckItOut is a very nice home checkbook with budgeting and decent reports.  This is my favorite this far for home use.
Pretium - Decent, similar to CIO but not quite as nice (IMHO) for daily use.
Homebank - Decent but not as nice as the other top contenders.
Money Matters - Don't know this one, looks like another home use system.
A few other aminet based accounting systems are home based systems....

Anyone using their Amiga for accounting?

[matt3k]

Agreed programming wouldn't be a monumental task, but there are lots of potential issues that come into play if you want to build a real GAAP Compliant accounting system with subledgers, control accounts, and transaction controls.

Not one of the accounting systems I have tested is a 'real' accounting system that could be used in an industry.  

From my search only Easy Ledger offers subledgers, and I haven't tested transaction controls of it yet.

Building a good reporting and budgeting system might take same time to get it nice would be a bonus.  Since most of the software I have tested, reporting is the weakest area.

Will keep testing and let you all know.

Any other accounting software out there???

[matt3k]

You make spreadsheets sound easy on Amigas.  You'll be challenged to find any decent spreadsheet software for Amigas, let alone up-to-date accounting software..  AmiCygnix probably has the best spreadsheet support though.

Never used AmiCygnix.  Thanks for the tip...  I use turbocalc 5.  Does the job but, as you mentioned, sorely lacks modern features...

[matt3k]

GNumeric is a very nice spreadsheet especially since the revision where you can start it straight from Workbench without loading up AmiCygnix.  I've got some very very large & complicated spreadsheets I use for work and GNumeric runs them great.

Will check this one out.  Appreciate the tip.

TC5, is decent but hasn't be updated since the late 90's....

[matt3k]

http://www.e-conomic.co.uk/ here in Denmark it's one of the systems that is usually recommended. There is also Microsoft Navision online.
C5 Online, http://www.c5online.nu this page is in danish, but I guess you can get it in other langauges. C5 really have everything that is needed.

There really is no need to reinvent CRM/ERP programs.

Good point, but I would rather run the application natively on my Classic Amiga.  

I will keep up the quest for find the best Amiga Accounting Solution!

Regards,

M

[matt3k]

I don't think having dedicated accounting software is required for personal use. Except maybe if you wanted it to go online or something. The problem i have with accounting software is that much of it is not neccessary and just gets in the way. I use Excel 97 which has templates built in which is enough for my personal use and it's really simple to use. Personally i think Libre Office would be the best choice for the Amiga if it ever comes out. But maybe this would not be enough if you wanted to do more than just bookkeeping.

What type of accounting did you want to do out of curiosity?

Its twofold.
1.  Looking to replace CheckItOut, which I currently use for my home finances.  As it stands, I will probably be keeping it for that task.  I tested Phasar, which has some better features, but the reporting and data entry is dicey.

2.  I'm helping out with a very small local nonprofit.  I need real subledger and decent controls and billing.  So far the only contender is Easy Ledger, I have to further test it to be sure...

Shame the Amiga doesn't have more to offer here, I'm certain that there are other capable accounting systems that were lost in time...

Take care,

M

[matt3k]

http://aminet.net/search?query=accounting This search gives you a few choices. I am at work now, so I can't try any of them right now.

I tried them all as part of this experiment...  All of them were home accounting except the demo for easy ledger 2.

@Kesa,
As yssing said real accounting use is vastly different from home use.  Every amiga home accounting system would not pass an audit and make the management letter.  GAAP forbids deleting historical transactions without a reversing entry, for example.  Even entry systems on the PC (quickbooks and peachtree/sage 50) allow for historical deleting  without and audit trail and can fail the audit (depending on the cpa firm)

That aside, running even a simple ap/ar aging from a spreadsheet would be a real pain.

[matt3k]

@Yssing and Hans.

Retention is important agreed and most software I have come across can retain multiple years without and issue.

The big issue is deletion of prior year activity without an audit trail.  In entry level software it is easy to write yourself a check by changing a vendor name, printing a check, and then renaming the vendor back.  Or simply delete a check or entry and invalid financial statements.  Fraud controls like vendor level tracking and requiring a reversing entry to adjust balances are hard to find in Amiga circa 80-90's software .

Still have to play with Easy Ledgers 1 a bit to see how good it is...

Fun exercise anyways...

[matt3k]

Hi Jeff,

The only solution I have come across is easy ledgers, but the reporting is not very robust (at least in version 1, haven't found version 2 yet).  There was another accounting system back in the day, think it was a billing system with accounting...  

Most of the systems are simple check registers, some with quickbooks functions.

An indirect or direct Cash flow statement will be a real chore to find on the Amiga, and I would wager doesn't exist in any accounting software...

When I get my mess of amigas put together I will take a look to confirm that easy ledger doesn't do cash flow...

CheckItOut is a nice, simple, get the job done simple accounting software.  Sadly I don't know if you will be able to track down the author to get a key for it.  Go to Aminet and try it out...

I am interested in using Amiga. At present using accounting services from Zipbooks. We need to maintain double entry system and its a bit difficult. Balance sheet, Cash Flow Statement and General Ledger are very important to me.