Dragons Lair WHDLoad won't run.

[matt3k]

Recently bought Dragons Lair and installed via WHDLoad.  It installs without any issues, but when it runs  WHDLoad goes through the splash screens and reboots as normal.  Then it goes to a grey screen and doesn't continue.  Sometimes a green screen appears first and then proceeds to the grey.

I have played with nocache, ntsc, and other settings in WHDLoad, with no success.

My system is a A3000, 3.1, 68040, Cybergrapx 4.

Any ideas?

[matt3k]

i bet its the 040 giving you the problem..

lost

Thanks for the idea, but I tried on a stock 030 a3000 just to be sure.

Same identical issue on a stock 3k with 3.1(3.9) and 16mb ram.

[matt3k]

wait isn't a green screen something to do with the chip ram?

Not sure that is the case here.  Tried 2 different 3000d's and both work fine with other WHDLoad games.  

The Green screen comes up prior if I play with the WHDLoad settings.  If I don't touch any of the settings it goes right to the grey screen.

[matt3k]

Fair enough. I was spitballing with it and my thoughts were that some of the settings where causing something in the chip ram to spaz out. It might have been completely nuts but I figured it was worth a shot lol. :-)

Thanks for the idea Crit, truly appreciated.

Have a feeling the WHDLoad file install is bad.  I found reference to this not working in my searches.  Will have to contact the author and see if there is hope.

Again thanks for the help!

[matt3k]

Where did you get your Dragons Lair WHDload images from?

Try a re-install using the original disks and latest slave?

Check all the WHDload options set in the ICON. Possibly take one or two out or add one or two in according to the WHDload manual (PRELOAD, NoMMU, NoCache etc.)

Hi Alex,

I bought the original boxed game from an old Amiga user and I used the dragons lair for the WHDLoad.de website: http://www.whdload.de/games/DragonsLair.html by CFOU!.

I tried playing with the the settings, I will try again with some more to see if it works...

[matt3k]

I agree. WHDLoad 17.0 and 17.1 has broken compatibilty with a number of games unfortunately.

Thanks Lizard and Paul.

I tried 16.8 by copying over files over 17.1.  It doesn't give errors it just start to load and goes back to workbench (after the splash screen and a black screen, like a normal load).

Tried all the switched, novbrmove gave a green screen all other ones went back to workbench.

Should I try a older whdload?

[matt3k]

Thanks for all the help.

I tried removing the picasso monitor and boot to standard ecs.  It now behaves differently, after the whdload splash screen it goes to a gray screen and not back to workbench.  Unfortunately it doesn't go further...

Now I know it works on a 3000D, so there is hope.  Will try a different version of WHDLoad, the same one that Lost had success and see what happens.

Paul, for me the green screen is because of the NOVBRMOVE command.  Do you have that tooltype?

Will try 17.0 and let you know...

Lost do you know you MB rev?  Mine are 9-03, with the WD Proto -08 SCSI.  The one I'm hoping to install this on has a Sprectrum, Ariandne, 16megs of 60NS ZIPS (turned ramsey wrap, burst, and page off), Buster 11, DMAC 04, RAMSEY 07, 3.1 ROMS and Workbench 3.9 with BB4.

[matt3k]

Well this is a bust.

Tried:
* Removed graphics and ethernet card to run the 3k stock.
* Booted with the most minimal workbench.
* Tried all the settings in WHDLoad.
* Turn off synchronous transfer, cpu setting, and booted to OCS from rom.

All of the above gave the identical result.

Strange that Lost was able to make it work with similar system and I wasn't.

[matt3k]

here ya go
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ72h-r6SCs&feature=youtu.be
 
Weird it didn't quit this time when I tired.. usually does. Oh well, if something is going to mess up it is usually when trying to show something that works. Funny, on a side note dungeon master whdload use to work for me and now it doesn't, even when reinstalled. But I guess that could be a whole new thread .
 
lost

Hey Lost,

Thanks so much for putting the effort in!  

The only 3 thinks I can even think of:
1.  This system has 3.9 BB4.
2.  This system has DMAC 4 and Ramsey 7.
3.  This system is a 9/3 Made in USA.  (My other 3k with a 9/3 was made in Hong Kong and has the same issues, but has an 040 - So I doubt it. - really don't want to yank the 040).

That is all that I can come up with.  Do you know your dmac and ramsey?
What tooltypes are you using for WHDLoad?

I will try to see if the WHDload folks have a clue...

Again a BIG Thanks Lost, really appreciate it.

Matt

[matt3k]

just a update lol, wonder why i didn't think of this before.. I booted my BW classic work bench holding right mouse button and selected start workbench with minimum startup. and then cancelled what ever errors came up.. then tried all the dragons lairs (1,2,3) and space aces (1,2) .. and guess what...  It all worked.. heck i clicked on after burner too cause i knew that didn't work for me and it did.. Hey MATT3K , boot with bare minimum settings and see if it works.I can post vids to tease you if you like

lost

edit :  dang it... here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlAzfyp7EEc

Teasing worked .

Everything works perfect now on my end, thanks Lost truly appreciate the help!

Saw that you upgraded to the X-Surf-100, nice job...

Matt