68060 vs 68040

[matt3k]

@amigaclassicrule

I never had a 33MHz 040, so I can't compare to that.

I have had a 40MHz 040 (Warp Engine 3040) and a 50MHz 060 (Cyberstorm MKII).

I ran them side by side in 3000D's and I kept the WE, and from a overall usability standpoint the WE was better.  I have always used oxypatcher on the 040 and macrosystems 040.library and they are 100% stable.  Ran the 040 for 15 years 24/7 with no issues.

My advice will depend on the card you can acquire and the usage of you system.  If your doing lots of math functions really try to get an 060 with Oxy.  Other than that, either processor will be just fine.

My personal cards of choice would be a WE 3040 or CS MK III. (for a 3000D).

What ever the used market will offer at any one time will present delays.  Choose a card first and just wait, otherwise you will always kick yourself.  The right card in the Amiga makes a significant difference.

Good hunting...

[matt3k]

Agree with Mechy and Paul,

So many factors come into play with performance, application, and usability it is impossible to make blanket statements.

For my use, the 40MHz 3040 Warp Engine provided a better user experience that my 50MHz Cyberstorm MK II in a 3000D.  I was using the 3k for word processing, web browsing, financial reporting, email, and light DTP.  The 3040 delivered a faster overall experience then the CS for that usage, I tested them side by side and that is why I kept the the 3040 and sold off the CS.  If I was ray tracing and doing lots of math as my main usage I certainly would have kept the CS and sold the WE.

The 060 is by itself isn't a great solution unless it is paired to it's own high performance local memory and has it's own Fast SCSI controller.  I would trade a CS MKII in a heartbeat for a Warp Engine.  Macrosystems did a better job in that case.  Now if you were to bring a CS MKIII into play, I would clearly take the CS.

Truth be told, the step up to the 040 @40MHz from an 030 @25MHz (with the WE) was FAR greater then the move to the 040 to the 060 @50MHz.  I remember says to other Amiga folks...  "This is it???", it really was a dissapointment.   Clearly the difference was with the packaging of the WE, and how good it was made.

[matt3k]

Well, there is someone who is going to sell me an Apollo 1260 running at 80 Mhz with 32 MB of RAM maximum (unless I get someone to soldier an additional 32 MB of RAM).

But a Blizzard 1260 @ 50 Mhz can see up to 128 Mb of RAM but is stuck with 50 Mhz.

Is Blizzard 1260 higher quality and better than Apollo 1260 or do you recommend I should go ahead and buy Apollo 1260. This is my Amiga usage:

1) Internet browsing, IRC, etc
2) WHDLoad games
3) Playing MP3
4) Developing on it as a developer's enviornment
5) Using AmiGift

and I want to be able to play the game total chaos and Napalm as well. I love playing a game called Trap so the question is 32 Mb FAST RAM more than enough?

I also want to be able to watch movies on my system. So should I stick with Apollo 1260 with 32 MB of FAST ram at 80 Mhz or go with Blizzard 1260 @ 50 Mhz that can see 128 MB of fast RAM.

Movie watching even with the fastest Amiga with the best video card and processor will yield poor results.  If your looking to play videos on cheap hw in an Amiga Like OS, pickup AROS or MOS.  They will be your best affordable bets and will play movies files.

For MP3 play, you need decent card, I'm not very knowledgeable on the 1200 here.  I can say that Delfina had a great card that relieved the cpu and gave a great usable experience, but you will need a zorro card.  People who use a 1200 can provide better response here.

Again, Browsing will be decent on an Amiga, esp. with a Cybervision, Retina Z3, or PIV.  But you need a zorro slot for that.  The best browsing experience now seems to be Fab's Odyssey browser on MOS.  But a classic still gets the job done well enough.

You may want to switch to a 3000 or a 4000 for the most performance options...  Just a thought to consider...

Good luck!

[matt3k]

I use a program called Rivo or something that even on a 68030 it is able to play the movie with sound and the picture is so slow though but it have a great potential of running the movie on 15 fps on a 68060 which is great experience for me.

I am going to get the Blizzard 1260 and I am going to enjoy the Amiga 1200 to the maximum.

I did not realize however that the Amiga 1200 is extremely different than the A4000, I did not know that the Amiga 4000 AGA is faster than the Amiga 1200 AGA's that I will be able to watch movies and do everything better on an Amiga 4000 than an Amiga 1200.

I really thought that the Amiga 1200 and Amiga 4000 are the same in everything.

Sounds like your really going to enjoy the 1260 for your experience.  That is great, push the 1200 to the max and enjoy!

The buses and cpu slots for the 3000 and 4000, perform better and open the door for more powerful options...  But, if you enjoy your 1200 who care :-)...

Viva Amiga!