Pegasos II vs AmigaOne

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A1 will get the best support for games since Hyperion continues the development of Warp3D. AOS 4 will come with UAE for older games.

Hyperion is a company with limited resources. It's yet to see if they can alone develop an OS and port games in paralell, and supply their solution with applications alone in the meantime.

MorphOS already has a very nice WarpOS/Warp3D support via wrappers. I can play Shogo (a Hyperion game) anytime on my Pegasos - can you do the same on OS4? No. You have to purchase it once more, in the form of a "native" version.

And it's not everything. JunGL is in development for some time and will provide full OpenGL support for MorphOS. Do I have to explain it's expected impact?

Not to mention UAE 0.8.22 which runs happily here.

We have plenty programs which were developed natively for MorphOS and later had AmigaOS versions as well. This is the way how the community indirectly benefits from MorphOS development.

With Pegasos/MorphOS you get free SDK and the SuperBundle.

With AmigaONE you still get nothing but a Linux with UAE. (Sarcasm on)With "buggy" drivers, which can't support ArticiaS features, thus corrupting data in some cases.(Sarcasm off)

If all goes well, you will soon receive a pre-release of OS4. It will have (according to forum posts) neither WarpOS/PowerUP support, nor native Picasso96, JIT...

For quite a long time the two solutions will be no match for each other. And if you want to wait for a full comparison, you may have to wait for years.

You can get frustration on both systems. The difference is with AmigaONE you can expect to have a hell a lot more for much more, and far less on Pegasos II - for almost half the price.

Another slight addition: MAI northbridges are present in the AmigaONE and the Teron. Both are MAI products... Many projects which used or planned to use the Articia northbridge folded, or switched to another one.

While the Marvel northbridges (one of which is used in the Pegasos II) was recently chosen by IBM as well.

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Who at hyperion told you that you have to purchase native Aos4 versions of their games all over again ?

So are you implying that the remastered versions will be free of charge either for AmigaONE owners or owners of previous copies?

Will I get native OS4 versions for free for my original Hyperion titles?

Anyone from Hyperion confirming it?

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lempkee wrote:
warface: i would really like to see where you quoted that from (about hyperion releasing a1 os4 native versions as a new product!)

Hyperion talks about about remastering their old games to be OS4 native. Beg your pardon for my ignorance, but as you all seem so sure about me being wrong - will you please enlighten me?

lame troll attempts , but then again native versions will run better than a wrapper but there is allready native versions for several which i am not in liberty to discuss here.

The same applies to MorphOS, rest assured.  Mind you, I haven't seen any proof that I was wrong. Even in the _only_ thing you argue with my post I haven't heard a valid argument: am I'm wrong then, will it be for free?

My understanding is clearly this, and I stand to that, and if I will receive a free OS4 version for my owned games, please share the happy news with me. I even asked for Hyperion's confirmation when my statement was questioned.

Thanks for calling me a troll just for that.

anyway since u mentioned that hyperion have a tight schedule etc, ofcourse they do! but they havent said like "HEYY, we are now only porting os4! , we stopped all out game dev!" oh and btw they got several new people in hyperion now, maybe u forgot to mention it? , and yes they do GAMES only!.... oh no.. seems like your warface is becoming pale..

You're very close to the borderline of openly offending me. Their schedule and that we have only a pre-release lacking key features only - speaks for itself. Feel free to interpretate it as you like, I stated my opinion. You have your own, it won't make a troll out of me.

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lempkee wrote:
ikir:why i said u where trolling

prices aint as cheap as u say unless u live in the country where its produced, CUSTOMS cost, taxes COSTs etc.

False reasoning. Customs, taxes are usually percentages of the original price. They make the cheap expensive, but the expensive even more expensive. It makes the difference in the prices to increase, and not the contrary.

At least it works that way here. Maybe your country has a different customs/taxation system?Or you live where the AmigaONE is produced?

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i got upset because u insinuated that the Native versions would cost money or most of all will be a new product!.

The reason for that is the expression remastered for OS4. Remastered Lucasarts films, various soundtracks are usually sold standalone and for a full or at the minimum an additional price.

You're talking about something usually called "free" "update", but I nowhere seen Hyperion using either of these expressions. Hence my presumption.

However, I understand your concern now, but yet I'd like to have official word from Hyperion, and I still stand to my interpretation. Hope you see what I base my presumption on.