Amiga Inc auctioning off office and computers?

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Sitting here thinking about this, and going back through the posts regarding the subject when they vehemently denied losing their offices, stating only that they have "relocated", I wonder if anyone will actually apologize to me for all the times I've been called a liar for bringing this stuff to the community's attention?

Noone will apologize you. They never did. When I stated in 2001 august that some delay in the AmigaONE/OS4 will most probably occur I've been cried out loud a liar by Gary Peake. The very same people who cheered him then sit now on amigaworld.net and repeat the same.

I've seen you apologize if you were mistaken. Why I can't see them doing the same after all those insults?
Don't want to make it personal and listing names, but if one browses the archives will find very strong words at times.

However, I have to add that Fleecy once apologized for the false announcements at the start of the QA-s and promised that it will never happen again... Yet...

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Thank god AOS4 is safe in all this. There is a point where rumours either become accepted truth or accepted falsehood. Which way will these go?

No, it isn't. Remember Haage und Partner. Being the saviour, leading SW company of the community, now public enemy. I hate to say, but if/when it will happen: I've told you months ago that this may happen. Hope I won't be right.

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According to Hyperion, AOS4 is protected in the contract. I see no reason why they would lie about that. It is possible that the contract is not failsafe but being in different countries helps - you can get protection behind geographical legal boundaries.

No, I didn't mean AmigaOS4.0. I meant the future versions. And Hyperion itself.

Never the less, I still has respect towards Haage und Partner despite the negative attitude towards them. Just as I respect Hyperion. (as some may have noticed this by now this Haage saviour/public enemy theory is a fixa idea of mine, sorry for that :-))

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IRC Hyperion clarified in public that if AInc went tits-up.com then they had the full rights to continue to develop AOS beyond AOS4.

Just as Haage und Partner holds right to OS3.9. That's why Hyperion couldn't use the 3.9 sources for OS4. So it's not that "good thing from all sides".

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Oh well. Hopefully this will be the last Amiga company with no products and only the name. I've watched them come and go since '94. Time to carve another notch.

They haven't gone bankrupt yet. We'll see. (What more damage can they make?)

Damn, as for the PPC OS split is one thing, but splitting the amiga.org community... That was a real ugly move.

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@L8-X:

Sorry, you are a good man, but many on amigaworld.net resembles to King Arnuf and his citizens from Monty Python's Eric the Viking: (sorry for the long quote)

KING ARNULF Now, I know what some  of  you  must be thinking... the day has
come.... we're all going  down,  etc.  etc.  But let's get away
from the fantasy and look at the FACTS.
FACT ONE - The threat of  total  destruction has kept the peace
for one thousand years.
FACT TWO - The chances of  it  failing now are therefore one in
three hundred and sixty-five thousand.
FACT THREE...

By this time the  water  is  up  to  people's  knees,  and several have
crowded onto the lower steps to avoid getting wet.

KING ARNULF FACT THREE - Our  safety  regulations  are the most rigorous in
the world. We are all  nice  to  each  other, we never rub each
other up the wrong way or contradict each other, do we?
CROWD    No.

Rumble. The buildings sink and masonry falls.

CITIZEN We... er... do seem to  be  going down quite fast, Your Majesty
      - not trying to contradict you, course.
KING ARNULF No, of  course  you're  not,  citizen.  But  let's stick to the
facts. There has  NEVER  been  a  safer,  more  certain  way of
keeping the  peace.  So  whatever's  happening,  you  can  rest
assured, Hy-Brasil is NOT sinking. Repeat, NOT sinking.

ANOTHER CITIZEN May I just make a  point  in support of what King Arnulf's just
said?
KING ARNULF We'd be delighted - wouldn't we?
CITIZENS Yes, we'd certainly like  to  hear  what  one  of us has got to
say...

ERIK What are you all doing?
CITIZEN AT THE BACK (cheerfully) It's all right. It's not happening.
ERIK (urgently) The place is sinking!
CITIZEN AT THE BACK Yes... I thought  it  was  too, but the King's just pointed
out that it can't be.
CITIZEN (still speaking in support of  the  King) ...and, of course, we mustn't
forget King Arnulf's EXCELLENT eye for flower-arranging.

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I think you are acting (or are you indeed acting?) very young and spoiled, gloating as you are about the demise of an amiga company and decent (I believe they are) human beings.

Th eproblem is that, that those who are right and telling the truth are called "FUDders" "Trolls" and "Liars" as long as the Actual Amiga leadership (not just the actual one) can make people believe the opposite. When the bubble bursts and it turns out you're right then you're the worst kind of wrongdoers, harming those poor ppl.

They dig their grave for themselves. Just to be clear.

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No one here is doing anything to make things better,its just making us look stupid bunch of back stabbing gits to the world as soon as things dont go as we like.

It's a pretty untrue accusation. But most of us work for the community and not Amiga Inc's sake, that is true. IMHO they called for it: they splitted then alienated the bigger of the community, and now you expect that part of the community to rush and help out your favourite vapour company? I'd say no way.

They are on their own. If they deliver products, keep their words and PROVE to be honest then the community will help them too.

Helping and praising the Inc, whatever happens, whatever it does, lies, promises, ignores is not a god given duty of the community in all circumstances as you insist.