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Re: SAM 440 - What would owning one mean to you?
« on: November 16, 2008, 01:21:21 PM »
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@A1260

Oh boy, aren't you a blast from the past?

Hi takemehomegrandma,

If he's a blast from the past, you are the solar wind!
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Re: SAM 440 - What would owning one mean to you?
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2008, 01:37:28 PM »
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Jahc likes to call his OS of choice AmigaOS4.1, and so does Hyperion. However, Amiga Inc (the IP owner) doesn't agree, and that's why they have submitted the lawsuit for trade mark infringement. Let's see what comes out of this law suit before speaking too much about Amiga resurgence based on Hyperion's OS, chances are you only will be disappointed if you invest too much hope in this one...

Hi takemehomegrandma,

Since you bring it up (constantly), first of all, Hyperion Entertainment are going to win the lawsuit, case closed. They WILL get to keep AOS4.0 and 4.1 source code, because they own it, and have a perpetual license to use the Amiga trademark and copyright worldwide (as they own that too), and if they don't, and call it BarfOS7.24 on Friday Nov. 21, 2008, I'll keep supporting/using it anyhow.
\\"Which would you buy? The Crappy A1200, 15 years out of date... or the Mobile Phone that I have?\\" -- bloodline
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Re: SAM 440 - What would owning one mean to you?
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2008, 01:48:44 PM »
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Would it still be an Amiga to you if it didn't run OS4? I bet not.


No, the SAM440EP wouldn't be an Amiga to me if it didn't run AOS4.1.

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But the real Amigas, even though they can't run OS4,

That's a false statement. Did you lie deliberately? Is knowingly lying permitted on this messageboard?

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are still Amigas. They would still be real Amigas even if they were used to run Unix or any other OS.

Funny story jorkany, there IS a Unix available for Amiga, oh, and even funnier, you can run old versions of MacOS on Amigas as well. Yup, hilarious. And guess what, the people who DID that ACTUALLY called their computers "Amiga". I can't believe it either;-) though! Apalling!!
\\"Which would you buy? The Crappy A1200, 15 years out of date... or the Mobile Phone that I have?\\" -- bloodline
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Re: SAM 440 - What would owning one mean to you?
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2008, 03:41:51 PM »
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The future would disappear in an instant, the OS development would stop, all interest would go away, and with that all SW development, etc. It could very well turn out to be a still born project. I'm *not* saying it will, but the risk is clearly there until all legal issues are settled. That's where the disappointment could come from. And no, there is nothing bold about that statement.

Hi takemehomegrandma,

Well, I was wrong when I stated that you have mellowed and are being quite constructive in pointing to other worthy CPUs that can be used, as you're clearly still in the red/blue war, as if the 2 asterixes are enough to disguise the FUD you are perpetuating, many times so far in just this thread!


\\"Which would you buy? The Crappy A1200, 15 years out of date... or the Mobile Phone that I have?\\" -- bloodline
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Re: SAM 440 - What would owning one mean to you?
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2008, 04:25:45 PM »
Hi DyLucke,

I'm being torn in two..... We need this new HW for AOS4.x.

But what we really need is new more powerful CPUs on our motherboards. Preferrably in the 2 GHz range and dual core WITH Altivec (64 bit would be very, very nice, but dual core 2.4GHz 32 bit is just fine), meanwhile, the NatAmi has INCREDIBLE draw on me, as it is the original, and just pure magic!!!!!

It'll blow EVERYTHING away TOTALLY!!!!!!

Imagine, boot time, 6 seconds or less, and the OS maxes out at 6 Megabytes!!!!!!!! (I can't add enough exclamation marks!)

Also, a software bag of tricks of 10 Megabytes (compressed, hehe) on top of that could put a minimum install windross xpee to shame! (Anyone hazzard to guess how big win would be?) AND if it was running off of 2 * 16 GB compact flash cards in RAID striped array???
Hahahahahahahahahahaahah!!!!!!!

And to think, they plan to go ASIC after that, ..... more than 500 MHZ!!!!!
\\"Which would you buy? The Crappy A1200, 15 years out of date... or the Mobile Phone that I have?\\" -- bloodline
So I guess that A500, 600, 1000, 2000, CDTV, CD32, are pure garbage then? Thanks for posting here.
 

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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2008, 05:01:27 PM »
Hi Dammy,

I read it and will reply, however I'm posting from my AmigaOne XE at the moment and PMing here doesn't work with AWeb 3.5.08. :-( Java hitch, I guess.

About the court meeting:
First, it would be totally awesome to meet the Friedens, but I think they are submitting comments in writing.

Second, unless someone else knows better, it seemed to say "in the judge's chambers" as in, closed to the public, I beleive??

Personally, I can not see any resolution coming from this meeting. Amiga Inc. won't budge into some kind of sharing agreement, and there's no way that Hyperion will give up being allowed to sell AOS4.x (and they shouldn't). Stalemate; lawsuit proceeds to next anywhere from Jan. thru May 2009. And, I stand by Hyperion taking the whole Pot 'o' Gold.


It's unfortunately on the slow side, the Sams. :-( And, they don't have Altivec, major drawback. This is very depressing to me that we don't have more powerful HW in this day and age. But, this is still down to inappropriate unavailability of support chipsets, but they seem to have endless variants of PPC CPUs available! This is a manufactured disaster.
\\"Which would you buy? The Crappy A1200, 15 years out of date... or the Mobile Phone that I have?\\" -- bloodline
So I guess that A500, 600, 1000, 2000, CDTV, CD32, are pure garbage then? Thanks for posting here.