OS 4.0 Requirements

[Atheist]

olegil wrote:
But a MINIMUM requirement to run OS4 without any JIT emulation should be somewhere around 8MB. On a 320x200 8 bit screen ;-) (most people don't actually know how much memory screens take up. Try to calculate memory for 32 bit graphics in your preferred screensize and you'll see that 32MB won't last for many applications at all... 1600x1200 takes up 7.5MB of memory)

You couldn't imagine just how much I hate windows...anyhow, the ram needed for your 1600x1200x32bit colour screen should be zero. But pc architecture DOESN'T work. How can I say this? I seem to recall that my Ti4600 video card has 128 megs of ram; period! Why doesn't that ram actually DO something?

Oh, and directx8.1 only needs 64 megs of hd space. BS!

If it wasn't RISC, we could chop it to 20 megs, and if crazy card drivers weren't involved, down 16 or 12, probably.


Cheating a bit here, I posted this on AmigaWorld.net, here goes:
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PC133 ECC Reg. 1 Gig. costs

$320.00 + 7% + 7.5% = $366.40 Canadian
$366.40 = 235.20 Eu = 164 UKP = $261.26 US

I paid $560 in 1990 for 8, 1 meg. 70 ns SIMMs. $70 dollars each. I would do the SAME thing again, without question. Best thing I ever did, I knew it at that time, and I know it now.

Production of PC133 is in danger of being shut down, or curtailed. Then the price will shoot up. So get it or regret it.

AmigaOne! Get AOS4.0, then SHOW OFF!!!!

P.S. You know, it's funny how just by using AOS4.0 will be showing off....i.e. the fact that it works, while windows doesn't!!!!

[Atheist]

mikeymike wrote:
Erm, video RAM is used for display drawing... what evidence were you relying on to say that it wasn't?

My point is this, if I have 128 megs of ram on the video card, and at least 512k on my audigy card, why couldn't the OS work in 4 megs?


AmigaOne! The elegant OS!

[Atheist]

mikeymike wrote:
You want Windows to run out of video memory and sound card memory, regardless of what it is doing?

? How would it run out of video memory?

AmigaOne isn't an OS.

Oops.


AmigaOne! AOS4.0, The elegant OS!

[Atheist]

mikeymike wrote:
Apologies, ambiguous wording.  I meant, Windows use video memory rather than system memory.

128,000,000 bytes of ram on the card.

1600 x 1200 = 1,920,000 pixels x 4 bytes for 32 bit colour = 7,680,000 bytes

AmigaOne! AO4.0, in developement!

(That's accurate?)

[Atheist]

Recap:
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Atheist:
My point is this, if I have 128 megs of ram on the video card, and at least 512k on my audigy card, why couldn't the OS work in 4 megs?
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mikeymike:
You want Windows to run out of video memory and sound card memory, regardless of what it is doing?

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Atheist:
? How would it run out of video memory?
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mikeymike:
Apologies, ambiguous wording. I meant, Windows use video memory rather than system memory.
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Atheist:
128,000,000 bytes of ram on the card.

1600 x 1200 = 1,920,000 pixels x 4 bytes for 32 bit colour = 7,680,000 bytes
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mikeymike:
Yes, and the graphics card uses that memory as it was designed to. Windows asks it to draw a screen with said specifications and details, it draws the image into graphics memory and displays it on the VDU.
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End recap.

What started this was

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Atheist:
You couldn't imagine just how much I hate windows...anyhow, the ram needed for your 1600x1200x32bit colour screen should be zero. But pc architecture DOESN'T work. How can I say this? I seem to recall that my Ti4600 video card has 128 megs of ram; period! Why doesn't that ram actually DO something?

Oh, and directx8.1 only needs 64 megs of hd space. BS!

If it wasn't RISC, we could chop it to 20 megs, and if crazy card drivers weren't involved, down 16 or 12, probably.
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Okay, I started talking about windows, then at the point where I said RISC, I switched to AOS4.0. I was trying to say that OS4.0 may be able to work in 12 megs on a CISC CPU (16 on RISC CPU). Also, I was wondering why so much regular ram was needed anyway, when the video card has huge swaths of it available for display purposes?

Sorry for the confusion.


I advocate maxing the ram out anyway! :-D


AmigaOne! AO4.0, in development!

/*fixed*/

[Atheist]

Well, that'll teach me, I should
Check, double check, and check again...
just like microsoft does.  ;-)


AmigaOne!  :-D