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Re: IDE Compact Flash on A4000 initial review
« on: June 16, 2003, 06:14:22 AM »
Thanks so much for trying that.

I've been going on and on about that for a while.

Those big CFs aren't that much (well, compared to the capacities of HDs they are). But, for me, if I replace my 180 Meg SCSI that I bought in 1990 for $905 including tax, with a 256 meg.

must be a 1* CF
128 = $65 + tax = $74.43
256 = $100 + tax = $114.5
Canadian dollars

What's the big deal cost wise?

I'm telling you, Amigas are THE BEST!!!!!

You can't do that with win98, or xp. Weeelllllll, you'd need a 512 for 98.

I just searched here and found me refering to it 11 times, the earliest is March 12, 2003. And they now cut the thread records to about 5 months back.

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Hi,

The FULL potential of the AGA Amigas has not been shown off yet. (I feel that way, anyway.)

I would like to know,

1) since it takes a couple of seconds for a HD to spin up, could a person load the OS into flashrom to boot up off of, is it big enough, could you put a second flashrom on there for this?

or

1a) Could I boot off of a Compact Flash card? The 25 speed ones?




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1a) Could I boot off of a Compact Flash card? The 25 speed ones?
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Yeah sure see why not(quick google search):
http://www.jactron.co.uk/ad-ide-cf.htm
http://www.emjembedded.com/products/flash/chipdisk.html
http://www.acqu.com/usa/ifd-xxx.htm

I did see some of theese for sale a while back here in Norway but i cannot remember the price, but i'm sure that if they were cheap i would have bought one pronto.


Your name is appropriate for running this test!!! Dr_Righteous!!!
 
What's your boot time, with no harddrives, or CD roms attached (no printers, scanners, etc)? It may be faster, beacause the drives have to go through diagnostics.

This finally vindicates my fanaticism that A M I G A  R U L E S ! ! !

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Re: IDE Compact Flash on A4000 initial review
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2003, 06:28:26 AM »
You're probably right about the transfer speed topping out. Back then they couldn't of imagined tranfer rates being able to go that high!

A SCSI interface on an accelerator card may be faster??

I'm quite amazed at the speed, due to, it looks like CFs are 16 bit transfers. Not enough pin holes for 32 bit? Technology, huh?

Could you keep a sustained burst mode transfer? Or switch from synchronous to asynchronous (or vice versa, I don't know how it works)? Try assigning more or less buffers. Maybe a difference?

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Re: IDE Compact Flash on A4000 initial review
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2003, 06:38:51 AM »
I've wanted to do this for a long time, but can't afford it.

Now I have a MAJOR incentive!

Thanks!

I contacted one of those companies on Friday, but got a hold of a saleslady who wasn't sure what I was talking about. She wasn't sure sure what I meant by PCI card, or "attach to it (PCI IDE controller)" was all about!!!

Like I was gonna waste my time trying to explain what an Amiga was after that!!!

So I don't know the price yet. Their website is a nightmare of NOT explaining what products are, or trying to find the prices associated with said, undescribed product. I might get a call back on Monday.

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Re: IDE Compact Flash on A4000 initial review
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2003, 09:21:55 AM »
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I see they have 44 pin ones now too.  would be nice for a 1200 or 600 .
http://www.cfide.co.uk/compact_flash_ide_adapters.shtml


Maybe I was wrong, small holes, a bit hard to count them all. (How many holes does it take to fill the Albert Hall? ;-) )

I've seen PCMCIA to Compact Flash adapters. Could those work with A1200s? How about A600s? For booting off of??

A600s PCMCIA was its' ONLY redeeming feature, rarely used, I'd imagine.

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Re: IDE Compact Flash on A4000 initial review
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2003, 08:27:03 AM »
Don't forget, I'm guessing here, but even A1200 and A4000 SCSI controllers don't get much higher than the current CF transfer rates. At least the original 020 @14 MHz and 040 @25 MHz.


This is toooo cooollll!!!

AmigaOne! This is the first thing I will try on a One!  :-D  (full OS 4.0 <20 megs)  :-D
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Re: IDE Compact Flash on A4000 initial review
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2003, 02:46:27 PM »
I found out xp creates a swap file that is 1 and a half times the size of your ram.

I found a place on the internet telling me how to make it smaller with some regisry settings, it didn't work.

Then I tried the, erase swap file on shut down, all I can say is, I have a RAID setup, it was unpleasant, don't believe me, give it a try! (Thought the swap file should maybe be erased before the new size kicked in.)

BTW: I have 1 Gig and was trying to find a motherboard that holds 3 (I got the ram lying around, but can't use it because it is ECC Registered, and I can't use it on the A1 because it uses PC133 and mine is DDR!!!)

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Re: IDE Compact Flash on A4000 initial review
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2003, 11:16:10 AM »
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mdma wrote:

What I meant was Amiga Inc employees that are coders?

Thanks for the info though, it's interesting.


Yeah, just don't pass it on to bbrv.  ;-)

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Re: IDE Compact Flash on A4000 initial review
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2003, 01:22:27 PM »
Very Atari 2600 like!!!  :-D  :-D

They really are the audio casettes of the 21st century, as far as I'm concerned!!

And floppies, even video casettes!! They just came out with a 4 gig version, a DVD movie can JUST fit on that, well, many can.

Imagine a VCR which uses CFs instead of junky old video tape!  :-D  It could have 3 - 6 sockets. Or a car stereo, or a boom box, with 3 or 4 sockets.

Resources wise, I think the material that makes 1 CD could make 2 CFs.

I hope that in the future, they are the ubitiquous standard.

In short, I love those little thingies.

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