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Re: Must have Zorro cards or other hw?
« on: May 16, 2011, 03:39:05 AM »
Guys, if you want RTG graphics, you should want PCI or PCI-Express, NOT Zorro.

If you want Memory (ZorRAM), you want that via a more native addon, NOT Zorro. (I don't know how much is in FPGA Arcade directly)

If you want ethernet, is there not already a native addon planned that includes ethernet? But again, PCI/PCIe should be preferrable to Zorro.

Again for Deneb, is there not already USB port on a native FPGA Arcade addon? (I want to think it is on 68060 addon, along with ethernet) Why go Zorro compared to native or PCI?

Are or can be FPGA Arcade addons stackable?

The things I would think hardest to live without would be Video Toaster companions such as the Flyer board. But then we need a video slot for Toaster too. Does anyone really plan to use a toaster kit with the FPGA board?

I think it wold be an interesting project to make a Zorro slot for FPGA Arcade, as an educational exercise, but I don't expect it would be of much practical use. Though I won't be one to discourage anyone wishing to try. (I'm one wishing to try, if nothing more than to learn how to do such things)

I think it would be good to see people working on native addons for popular things like ethernet, USB, SCSI or whatever, rather than trying to adapt unweildy Zorro cards for normal use onto such a petite host.
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Re: Must have Zorro cards or other hw?
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2011, 03:33:08 PM »
Quote from: alexh;638086
1) Why have you pushed this thread to be about FPGA Arcade? Is this somehow linked to another thread?


Maybe my mistake. I've seen the FPGA Arcade thread take on a "we want Zorro slots" subtopic, and there's another thread about Zorro somewhere. At least the main FPGA Arcade thread has been asking "why do you need a Zorro sot adaptor", this topic here fits in with that rather well.

I guess I linked them together myself. Sorry.

As for PCI-Express, there's a handful of PCI32 adaptors, and then you can get this adapter supported with those:
http://www.startech.com/product/PCI1PEX1-PCI-to-PCI-Express-Adapter-Card

Without such adaptors, my favorite Zorro card was Rapidfire or Spitfire SCSI from DKB. Their driver handled auto disk swapping in ZIP drives way better than anything else I tried, even the Squirrel ZIP tools  with my 4091 paled in comparison. I kept a DKB SCSI card in my A4000T for my removable drives, and left everything else on the built-in 4091. My older classics also need ethernet and graphics cards. Anything else either goes unused or I never got one, including my mostly unused Delfina Plus.

But really, we should all value our PCI adaptors above all else. I've got both a Prometheus and a Mediator in different machines.
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Re: Must have Zorro cards or other hw?
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2011, 12:15:00 AM »
Quote from: alexh;638224
I work for the company that designed the chip on that card. Doesn't work very well with newer gfx cards (at least on a PC) :-(


I was expecting it to be a PLX chip, I believe their adaptrs in the opposite direction used PLX. I don't know much about the Pericom stuff, but I do have two of your adaptors. :)
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