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Re: Troika Website Launch
« on: September 08, 2005, 01:53:34 AM »
> Does this mean that the AmigaOne is dead and the
> Pegasos really won the AmigaMarket ?

If Pegasos won, then why doesn't OS4 support it, and why would there be reason for Troika to do anything?? It's just yet another offering in the marketplace, not an indicator of anything between two other products.
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Re: Troika Website Launch
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2005, 01:56:49 AM »
>Also the lack of AGP is nasty. I will want to add a
>good graphics card that can do fast 3d etc for
>games I may want to play.

Read up on the Olegil motherboard threads on AW.net where he talks about making a PCI to PCI-Express bridge riser card that should work in any PCI slot of any motherboard/classic bridge. That should let you plug in a pretty decent graphics card, even if it would limit you to conventional PCI speeds in Troika, AmigaOne or Peg, or whatever bottleneck limits classic Amiga PCI bridges.
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Re: Troika Website Launch
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2005, 05:30:26 AM »
>it's PCI only so it's going to choke when graphics gets heavy.

Pegasos2 would then suffer the same problem as its AGP slot connects to a PCI port of the northbridge via a logic bridge of some sort.

For those of you demanding an AGP slot, name each and every PowerPC northbridge that provides one natively. Of these, how many are acceptable northbridge chips to you? Yep. Not much of a choice is there?

Anything we're going to see in our market will either use Articia or have to use an FPGA chip to build a PCI to AGP bridge, which is then limited to PCI bandwidth. Pegasos2 does this, and that may be acceptable. If so, why not just use a PCI to PCI-Express bridge and have the even newer graphics cards available to you?

If anyone would start a new design today, I'd say he's crazy to put any effort into an FPGA AGP bridge, as AGP is already on its way out. PCI-Express is on its way in, in a big way, and any design that would hypothetically start today should use that for graphics instead, IMNSHO.

> A simple bus slot is cheaper than a graphics
> chip or firewire controller!! it's just a
> plastic connector!

It's simply not that easy with PowerPC. If you don't want an Articia northbridge, then you need a logic chip to convert PCI into AGP for the plastic connector to wire up to. Life's never as easy as you'd like. :)

> Why not just go PCI express!

Read up on Olegil's solution to this on AW.net. Troika's board would be able to have PCI-Express this way, same for AmigaOne, Mediator, Prometheus PCI, Grex, Pegasos, etc.
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