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[partycentralpartygirl]

Its cool to critique the software but can we leave some of the Microsoft, and for that matter, Apple bashing back in the early 90's......  

I can quit bashing MS, but I'll quit bashing Apple when they pry the keyboard out of my cold dead hands.

Rectangle patenting SOB's.....

If you recall it was patent trolls that drove the final 50 nails into the C= coffin.

Apple is just plain evil, for hells sake they sue Preschools and a mom and pop grocery stores. Soon they will file a lawsuit against Jesus for referencing Apples in the garden of Eden. ***no sarcasm, this is what I actually believe***

[partycentralpartygirl]

Meh. Every big company is Evil. Google included. It's just that Apple is one of the largest tech companies now and as such one of the Evil-est.

Nevertheless Apple sucks, but still not as hard as Oracle. That company is a Deathstar sized vacuum of suck.

Oracle...


Poor, poor Sun... we barely knew ye...

[partycentralpartygirl]

I don't have Windows RT, only pro, but I suspect Windows RT (what's on the Surface) will be locked down.  You can only run ARM metro apps on it, so none of the intel stuff will work anyway, so I suspect they'll use the opportunity to lock you into the Microsoft store....

Correct only RT is locked down. MS looked at the market, saw the mess of the open model that Android uses and decided to go with Apple's model. Though money is a huge part of it, it is likely that MS does not want their brand new tablet OS to be a virus riddled POS for people to take pot shots at. Closed market will stop 99.99% of virus creators.

As for the doom and gloom of MS making everything locked down, you can still install regular Windows apps on the traditional desktop. I think that the closed model sucks but I am a power user, as we all are here. For the general population it won't matter that you have to get Apps from the App store and App store only.

Time will tell if we see this new OS overthrow Android and Apple. It has a good chance of doing so as in some ways it is much better. They wrote RT from scratch, the performance is better than iOS and Android.

Anyways who cares, let's get drunk insted. :pint:

[partycentralpartygirl]

Speaking of which, anyone care to guess what percentage of early Surface buyers realise they can't actually run anything but (the currently 200+) metro apps?  That they'll never be able to run those old Windows programs?  My guess is it's less than half, judging by the fud that's out there right now....

FALSE: There are over 5000 apps in the app store at the moment. From that site over 5200 are compatible with ARM based RT.

http://www.neowin.net/news/report-windows-store-now-has-over-5000-windows-8-apps

Also the only people stupid enough to buy an RT tablet and think it is a full PC capable of running legacy code should have bought iPad's in the first place. Though for 70% of internet users a facebook app, angry birds, fruitninja and bubble pop is all they care about anyway. Therefore Win8 already has "more than enough apps"

Though be honest, if Win8 is going on every single desktop sold there will be more Win8 apps then any other ecosystem in less than a year.

MS development environments really make the other guys stuff look like a pile of **** to be honest. People will be pumping stuff out like no tomorrow.

[partycentralpartygirl]

but intentionally nerfing it for anything other than tablet use by locking out the traditional desktop GUI.

No desktop GUI in Windows RT?

O'RLY?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GOyOqzLKRKg#t=73s



Though it remains to be seen if anything other apps can be used in desktop mode.

[partycentralpartygirl]

I'm down with free-as-in-dollars software, but if 87% of what's in the Windows Store is free, then only 13% (688) are complex and/or good enough that the developers thought they could reasonably charge money for them....

.... productivity mainstays like Photoshop or other essential software? Are you going to buy a Windows 8 system and then find 4,500 free apps and 700 Angry Birds clones?

By this argument all Android software is garbage since it is also free. Only Apple has been able to get users to pay for Apps thus far. Also you are implying people are using their tablets for "serious work" They are $700 facebook machines. Good for taking notes and little else at this point. Would you run photoshop CS5 on an iPad? No you would use the FREE APP to make **** instagram looking pictures.

Contrariwise, why would anybody who needs what Windows RT offers not already have an iPad or Android tablet?

Microsoft Office, installed on every single Win8 tablet, plus easy integration into corporate environments and virtualization support without having to pay licensingfees. iPad is an expensive toy to watch iTunes movies and play angry birds + facebook. Most Android tablets at least have removable storage unlike the iPad. So I take them more seriously than an iPad.

In the end MS tablets will have more useful software on them then for reasons already stated.

....when it's plainly not suitable for desktop use at all.

This comment illustrates that you have not tried Win8. The "metro" start menu is basically the same as the start menu except it fills the entire screen. It is perfectly useable as a desktop OS. People will be butthurt about it for a year or two and then they will be used to it. People were pissed when they went from 3.1 to 95 if you recall. HURR DURR I HAVE TO PRESS START TO SHUT MY COMPUTER OFF!!!!!!

All things considered I will continue using my Android tablets because I do not use them for serious business work. Though I do lust after the surface. If anything I would buy a Surface Pro, but I'm kinda frugal so I probably won't. I will not upgrade my PC's to Win8 until I buy a PC as they work perfectly fine with the OS's they came with. I have some older machines with XP and a couple of laptops with Vista (that work fine as they have 1 gig of ram) and a Windows 7 desktop.

[partycentralpartygirl]

Microsoft has released a video in response to this amiga.org thread.

Here is the video:
http://youtu.be/IY2j_GPIqRA

[partycentralpartygirl]

I heart linux AND windows

How ya like them apples?

The only good Apple products had 6502's in them, and ran a Microsoft OS. Search your heart, you know it to be true.

-just sayin'

[partycentralpartygirl]

Dude, most Amiga users have fast PCs.

Just finished building a new gaming PC for my kid. He knows that consoles are for peasants and that PC gaming is for the master race of gamers.

It's funny because my 7 year old has the fastest rig in the house by far. :laughing:

[partycentralpartygirl]

The only shame is that some console games won't ever be released on the PC

I assume that the only reason some are console exclusive is because of the piracy, perhaps Win8 will solve that problem. Hooray! Red Dead Redemption for PC!!!!

[partycentralpartygirl]

The same master race that keeps drowning money down the toilet upgrading in order to run a game that a console will run without that hassle?. Also the ones who only seem to thing that games are fps and strategy titles?.

That feel when running Skyrim and GTA4 on max settings making the console version look like barf.:banana::banana::banana::banana:

[partycentralpartygirl]

Spoiled brat? :razz:

I still have me coreduo setup that's working good since 2006 .

You just need a Mom that loves you more and then you will get a new Quad Core with a shiny new Radeon. Works for my son.

[partycentralpartygirl]

That's what they like to say. (But if piracy is so little of a problem on consoles, why do console titles still get DRM and why is there talk about next-gen consoles not using physical media?) Really I expect it has much more to do with only having one or two platforms to target, instead of a multiplicity of different hardware combinations; even in these days of standardized gaming hardware libraries, that stuff's still damn complex.

Porting from XBOX360 to PC is not a big deal when compared to porting between platforms in the old days. Both use MS SDK's and DirectX. DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS.... remember. Yes it is still a bit of work, guess some places don't feel the need. However piracy is still a problem in the PC world, go to that bay place to see. Console piracy is much less rampart, though still happens, however getting banned from XBOX live is a good deterrent for most people. As for PS3 piracy, no one actually plays PS3 so no one cares.

The new consoles will not be disk free. The ones after the new ones probably will be though.

[partycentralpartygirl]

Oh, it's definitely less complicated than it used to be, but weird issues do still have a way of cropping up when you have as many possible hardware combinations (and as many potential software setups) as PCs do.

True, this is exactly why MS made the "Metro" interface. All of these problems are now gone. The desktop was a kludge stacked on kludge's .NET fixed some of these problems but a clean sheet was the way to go.

Still gonna need the desktop but development of metro apps will be hardware agnostic more or less.

[partycentralpartygirl]

That's complete nonsense. Windows has had hardware-agnostic APIs for years now. It's the quirks of driver interactions and system addons that cause bizarre behavior that makes PC debugging hectic. Metro (or any other aspect of Win8) will do jack to fix that.

FALSE. :quickdraw: It's a major step towards solving a bunch of problems.

My bet is Metro style apps will run without problems in 10 years from now on the latest version of Windows. Will bump thread in a decade to confirm.