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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« on: May 23, 2012, 12:25:32 AM »
I am probably going to get one of these:

https://www.genesi-usa.com/store/details/11

It has double the memory of the beaglebone and has 8 gig memory onboard for only a tad more than the beaglebone.

These cheap ARM machines remind me of the low cost 8 bit computers of the 80's.

The more things change, the more they stay the same I guess.
 

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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2012, 02:24:25 AM »
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That does sound more attractive.


Just watching this:
http://youtu.be/PmHNecNguDM

Looks like they will be coming out with a new version that is an A8 Cortex 1.2ghz for a similar price. I will wait for that one, but will be buying the ARM11 unit that VIA has announced, I signed up for the e-mail notification so hopefully VIA can roll these out with enough quantity to meet demand.
 

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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2012, 02:31:25 AM »
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Well, it DOES cost quite a bit more.

The VIA system uses the same ARM processor that is in the Sylvania net appliance I just bought.

800MHz isn't blindingly fast, but it ought to be adequate.


The VIA is using an ARM11 chip, but the genesi and beagleboard are using the ARM8. The ARM8 is quite a step up from the ARM11 in terms of speed, like Pentium 2 to Pentium 4 from a performance standpoint. Though I do have a ARM11 running Android 2.3 and it performs okay, graphically intense games stutter quite a bit, but it can watch youtube (not in HD) and surf the web just fine on it. The VIA is very attractive to me as I need an excuse to buy more crap to play with. I think I will make a media player for my daughter to watch her TV shows on with it. Right now I am using an old Dell PC and it is noisy, big and probably has 50 times the power consumption of this little board.
 

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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2012, 09:29:27 PM »
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You think? It's three and a half times the cost, runs at 1.14x the clock rate (or likely 2.2x the speed, counting its better core,) and has 2x the RAM at the same speed. I haven't gotten a chance to compare a Pi's video performance, but I definitely remember the Efika MX's GPU being weaksauce. Not what I'd call a better deal at all, and that's not even getting into the fact that the Pi team are making all the documentation they can available, while Genesi doesn't really have any interest in hobbyist hackers at all.



The Genesi unit is aimed at developing nations not the hobbyist market so it is understandable they have no interest in the hobbyist market. The Genesi unit is a complete computer inside a case, the price is reasonable when taking this into account. Nevertheless they are sold out of the A8 unit forever, a new A9 unit will be coming out in the next little bit for approximately the same price.

As a general usage computer the new unit will easily spank the Pi & Via offerings due to the nature of the improved A9 chip. Whether or not the graphics chip is up to par on the new unit will be as good as the Pi's is another matter, but with it being designed to run a Linux distro optimized for schools in developing nations it is likely the video chip is an afterthought.
 

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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2012, 07:36:05 AM »
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Perhaps you've got a point, the Genesi machine may be aimed at the third world. If so, its not aimed well. A laptop with an integrated display makes more sense. I can buy an Intel Atom based laptop for about what the Genesi system would cost when a basic monitor, keyboard, and mouse are incorporated. And, instead of running Linux, I can run Windows.

And, for us in the hobbyist market, leave it to Genesi to move from the A8 to the A9 as the market prepares to move from the A9 to the A15.





Genesi also sells the board inside a laptop. They charge $199 for the laptop, though I am sure they sell it in quantity to gov't's for cheaper. I highly doubt they sell more than a hundred units (if that) off their website every year.

As far as I know the i.MX 5 series boards are already in production and after a bit will be for sale on their site for retail customers to buy. Though perhaps not as I believe they only sell leftovers from production runs online. I may be wrong though.

I think they are more going for fair performance with low power consumption as there are many places on earth without a reliable power grid.

As for selling the units without a monitor vs with a monitor. What exactly do you think happened to all those CRT monitor's that North America threw away? The tubes are re-manufactured into new monitor's and TV's. Somewhere in a developing nation they are playing an All-In-One Nintendo 1001-in-one SuperJoy III on a 1084 monitor tube. Anyways there is likely not a large shortage of cheap CRT monitors for these cheap computers to be plugged into.

I am fascinated by low end electronics, which is why I must budget not to spend more than a couple of hundred dollars on dealextreme each month. Though sometimes I cannot resist the lure... and consequently my home looks like a Chinese swap meet at times. Luckily my children break the stuff pretty quickly so I can new and improved cheap junk to play with....

I'm just ranting now... and I have to work in the morning.
doh.
 

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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2012, 07:47:20 PM »
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Genesi operates an online platform for technology enthusiasts and hobby as well as professional developers at http://www.powerdeveloper.org

The company has given away hundreds of development systems to hobby developers over the years and continues to support operating system distributions such as Crux, Debian, Fedora, Gentoo, openSuSE and Ubuntu.

Furthermore, Genesi has contributed several thousand (US) dollars to AROS-related Power2People bounties so far.

Was un-aware of this. Looks like Genesi is pretty awesome. I will be purchasing the new Efika MX when it goes on sale. Maybe now I will get 2.
 

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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2012, 08:14:53 PM »
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Low end electronics, GO: http://1saleaday.com/

Lowest price I've seen on a color tablet, I bet these sell out.

Thanks for this site, I will now be throwing money at my screen to get the cheap junk. :P

Maybe I need some helicopters too.
 

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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2012, 06:59:05 PM »
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Personally, I like some of the "cheap junk' I've bought over the years.
Thanks tone.

The EfikaMX could be interesting if upgraded to an A9, but for higher end ARM I'm still looking toward the A15.



Cheap junk is my favourite kind. If I find something "cheap" that works as advertised it makes me so happy.