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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« on: March 10, 2011, 04:01:11 AM »
Wow! This will be the year 68K strikes back.

AROS 68K +ROMs
Natami
FPGA Replay Board

Permagrin.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2011, 07:14:49 PM »
AhhhHHHheeeeeeeeeee! Hawt!

I gotta sell some stuff...
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2011, 11:59:44 PM »
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I think Natami just ceased to become relevant....


Modern (fast memory) + a 100Mhz 060 would run OS 3.9 at a 'reasonable' speed I reckon.


If this comes off, even some (would-be) NG Amiga user's might change their mind ;)



Yeah, with the daughter card, this pretty much satisfies any persons hopes for a new wave classic. Wha Buhhh , I,  too many things happening, stay in control.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2011, 11:48:06 PM »
Wow, we all really appreciate the updates, pics. Looking very fine.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2011, 02:29:54 PM »
Amazing stuff, I never owned or used an 060. I think this might be a good way to get introduced properly. :)

If I had to put this and Natami in a race to retail availability, I think this one will pull ahead, judging by the developments on the last week or so.


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Wow.  Great questions you asked there Dave!  :)

I love these little snippets:

Q:  what clock speed was used for the 68060?  
A:  I have a rev 6 CPU and expect it to be running at 100 MHz or even over.

Q:  What amount of RAM is planned on the expansion 060 card?  
A:  I have 128 MB of SDRAM. It will run with the same clock speed as the CPU does.

Q:  the Micro-SD card for storage, like a hard drive?  
A:  Exactly. It's intended to be directly accessed as a Amiga hard drive. With the help of DMA the transfer rates will be much higher than with a hard file.

Q:  Are the USB ports supported through Poseiden...?  
A:  We are going to use Poseidon.

This is going to be one hell of an Amiga.  All we need is a fast 16 bit or 32 bit RTG mode to use for Workbench and Workbench friendly apps (such as IBrowse, Final Writer, etc) and it will be perfect.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2011, 01:25:22 PM »
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Unless the '060 is used, you'll pay out the nose.
Natami is aiming for more performance and an '050 on the fpga.  Hence it will *probably* cost less than a Replay with a *new* 060 and daughter card.

The Natami is still a step ahead in performance as an Amiga...and that's not an insult to the Replay.  All you have to look at is the fpga used and the memory used.
However, the Natami will not be user-reprogrammable to run alternate platforms and that's where the Replay comes into its own market.

The Replay is going to be a great alternative to the Frankenstein method of accelerating classic Amigas...and run older alternate platforms.  There is no ill will between the two teams.

FPGA technology is advancing the 68k platform.  Minimig, Replay, Natami offer us NEW hardware at the performance and budget of your liking.  This is a win for Amigans everwhere.


Will be hard to choose. Well, I hope we have a day where we have a hard choice to make; with these options. And lets hope one of these sees the light of day this year...
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2011, 04:51:03 PM »
So should I shop for a full 68060 or the LC low cost models? Does that matter in this application?
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2011, 02:48:54 PM »
@Forcie

Thanks for the input and identifying yourself, is helpful. No hijacking IMO, it's all about new FPGA Amiga machines, and all good news.

So, sounds safe to shop for a 68060 no matter how you cut it. And the softcore + real 68K together as an "accelerator" or for other tasks, kinda reminds me of the 68K + PPC living and working together on the Phase 5 boards. Well, it sure isn't boring hardware anyway.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2011, 01:21:38 AM »
:roflmao:

I waaaaant one!
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2011, 03:58:02 PM »
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ROM in the case of AROS is just used as a catch-all phrase for a single binary that contains all the basic functionality needed to get the system to work with apps that expect the same functionality as an original Amiga kickstart ROM, and that *can* be put in a ROM or flash (e.g. they don't try to write to anywhere in the image, and only uses memory that's explicitly been allocated from RAM).

I don't think anyone would try to produce actual ROM chips - you're right that using flash is a better alternative. Even for classics, a ROM replacement holding a flash chip would be better than producing an actual ROM, so it's easily updated.

Well explained. But this makes me want a FLASH ROM for my classics more so than really needing AROS ( which is largely about getting free from copyright ). Something like what DENEB offers. If I have the power / control to pick and choose binaries (boingbags, whatever) to execute at boot up, why do I need AROS? it's "AROS" not "AROM". I want to be free of the ROM constraints, not the OS...
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2011, 04:35:30 PM »
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EEPROM flashable/Relokick-able custom ROMs for one.


You mean like this:



Offer us something that is already being done?
(These German guys are badasses over at the a1k.org)
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2011, 07:09:06 PM »
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It can also provide new features for classic Amigas if used, although there are also projects out there that rebuild the classic Kickstarts with bugfixed, up to date features too. However with the 1MB ROM limit (or 512KB for some) it's always going to be a squeeze on a classic Amiga.


Can you point me to one of these projects? I don't know diddly about EPROM burning/programing but I'm getting quite interested, even just to learn about it. And from above, I was focused on classics in thought, not FPGAs

AROS + FPGA, makes sense, extends functionality.
AROS + classic, case isn't as strong for the end user / consumer, IMO

@nicholas, good I see you get my point.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2011, 12:59:05 AM »
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To make your own:
http://aminet.net/package/docs/hard/DC-KF500

There were tries in the past from some guys like ROMflash that sadly never made it in the open.
I found that making your own custom kickstart is cool. If you map it via MapROM (like ACA cards) or in FPGA Arcade is better and full of win


Ah, thanks mfilos! This is pretty much what I been think of.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2011, 11:24:51 PM »
Has anyone mentioned in this thread about laptop option? I think we have but I'll do it again. It's pretty skinny, it could maybe become mobile Amiga. With the right kinda of kit. Would have keyboard, screen, a place to mount it down, power supply, battery solution etc.

Oh, people are all over that apparently

http://www.mini-itx.com/2007/01/19/the-itx-laptop

We could do better though.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2011, 02:14:46 PM »
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Status update:
I'm in China now. The production B02 database has been sent to manufacture today. I will source the remaining couple of components in the next week to build the next batch. I've also getting the ATX power adapter board made and some more patch daughterboards for attaching other stuff.

There are a number of developers working on a range of platforms - I'm working on a ZX spectrum port at the moment.

I've had some very nice communication with the NatAmi team and I wish them well.

I'll post some more pics ASAP.
Best,
Mike


Can't wait. Pics, yes!
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