Amiga vs console vs PC

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I find it kind of odd that people in this thread are saying the A1200 was too expensive compared to the Sega MD (or Genesis for us USA people).  The Genesis had more or less the same specs as an Atari ST.  I think it even had very similar sound chips (though more like the STe's sound than the original ST.)

The SNES was released only a year before the A1200, and really for general use, the A1200 has better graphics capabilities, it's only for specific game use that the SNES is a bit better at things.

I have read multiple times that the CD32 was the nail in the coffin for Commodore.  Both them and Atari could/should have just kept to selling computers, but they both did an an all or nothing into video game consoles.  Apple kept on selling Macs.. then iPod came along and pretty much saved their butts.  That's really all Commodore or Atari needed, some sort of device that was brilliant and everyone wanted.

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You mean 2 years before I guess ?

Oh, sorry, for some reason I grabbed the North American release date for the SNES, you're right, it was a full year that it was out in Japan.  But since I'm pretty sure the Japanese wasn't exactly a huge market for the Amiga, I compared the market of the North America, which I guess really was fading away as a popular Amiga place even then.  

Sad times those were.

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Unfortunately Commodore did not act like illegal monopolistic Ninbendo scum bags preventing independent releases on Amiga so could never compete with $100 NES CRAP as they made nothing on software and could therefore not sell hardware at cost.

To go from arcade perfect Marble Madness in 1986 to Ourun/SF2 turds from greedy UK nobheads is a joke but it's the story of Amiga. SNES can't do Lotus 2, Mega Typhoon or Shadow of the Beast but yanks/jap %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!s still bought the slow boring Mario crap...go figure.

There was never much wrong with hardware but who wants to play ST ports like Chase HQ? If only C= had bought out Cinemaware and done CDTV versions of everything.....not NEC CD crap.

A500 says all about C= without Jack, 18 months to replace A1000 beatiful case, WORM Kickstart RAM and internal PSU & power switch with pig ugly looks, a ROM socket and Vic 20 style PSU with power switch on it. Designed by dicks 'managed' by diks = A500 project. They didn't even promote A1000 in 1986 waiting for 12 month late A500 turd.

They would have f*cked it up either way clearly as Plus/4, C128 and A500 turds ateste

I have very often wondered what would have happened had Atari been able to get the Amiga design, instead of having to slap together the Atari ST.

Not that they were managed much better at that time, though it seems they went downhill after Sam took over.

Then again, I have once thought of an alternate history where Nolan Bushnell didn't get overwhelmed with running Atari and didn't sell it to Warner Communications, who then went on to pretty much make the whole video game industry crash.  

After reading about some of the back room crap, it sure seems to me that Commodore snagged Amiga from Atari, and then didn't know what the hell to do with it.  Again though, it's not like the Tramiels would have known, but maybe they would have done a bit better.  Oh well, something that's occasionally fond to ponder.  Hell for that matter, it sounds like me Jay Miner wouldn't have quit Atari in the first place if it weren't for Warner Communications.  The 'golden era' of Atari.  It was sad to see it become just another game publisher.

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Also, a quick note to this discussion;

Seems to me that the Playstation IS more or less the continuation of the Amiga as a console.  At least in the fact that some of the greatest games made for the Amiga was made by Psygnosis, which then more or less went on to create the Playstation, sell it to Sony and become Sony Entertainment (or whatever they're called now).

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