CommodoreUSA Partners with Disney

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Karlos

Sorry man just so tired of these ppl slagging off Cusa, THEY HAVE DONE MORE THAN ANY AMIGA OR COMMODORE COMPANY SINCE 1994!

Thanks, magnetic

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No, it is about using the "Amiga" name to describe actual "Amiga" products and not a linux PC running UAE or some tablet with a checkered wallpaper.  If it is this difficult for you to understand then this will end up being a very short and very expensive business venture.

You've pissed off actual Amiga users so they're not going to buy.  You're also going to piss off old Amiga users who end up thinking "what does this shit have to do with my old miggy?".  Way to go.

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Did Fake Commodore write VICE? No!

So don't give me such bullshit, I have been involved in real C64 software for a decade and you fancy Linux PC makes no difference to people like me OR ANYONE ELSE. VICE emulator or others have been around for 15 years now.

And stop inferring your pissant company is going to write a new Amiga compatible OS a la AROS for your x86 'Amiga' machines too please.

here are few of the "ANYONE ELSE'S":
http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_Comments.aspx

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You have it in reverse.  Commodore was always the manufacturer and they made Commodore products no matter what processor or OS they used.  Amiga was the range of computer that natively ran a particular OS.  That OS was never Linux or Windows.

So, once again, these Commodore tablets are about as "Amiga" as my grandmother's tits.  End of story.

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btw, great video Franko, but the funny thing is, it was actually shot in YOUR kitchen.

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I think you should refrain from commenting on things you know less than nothing about. You cannot buy advertising on anything that Disney does. They don't sell advertising. They are the largest media company in the world. There is a huge difference between "advertising" & "partnering".

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I think that much is obvious to anyone who even did business skills as an 11 year old at school.  Many bigger companies have tried to market Commodore PCs since the 1990s, I can count, Escom, Tulip, Commodore Gaming to name a few, all of which have failed.

Fact is you can't go up against the likes of Dell etc. who can afford little margins because they have huge customer bases.  

Plus I keep hearing from people such as Dammy that Barry/CUSA isn't aiming at the "retro market" as such, but outside of it, who on earth would want a PC on their desk that looked like something from 30 years ago?

The brown breadbox C64 even looked outdated by 1987 when it was replaced with the C64C.  Who are these hundreds of thousands of customers he's guaranteed?  Not retro enthusiasts, the general computer buying audience, businesses?  Sorry but I just can't see anyone outside maybe a few hundred Commodore fans (who CUSA have mostly managed to piss off) buying this?

I've asked the question around 10 times now on here but never can seem to get an answer to the above question.

Personally I think they over-estimate people's interest in "retro" gear, sure people get dewy eyed over the C64 and Amiga, but actually buying something today and reminiscing fondly about it is two different things.  I can't imagine most people would want to own a c64 look-a-like in 2011 anymore than they'd like to wear the fashion they were wearing in 1983 today.

Since you asked 10 times, here is the answer, 10 times:

http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_Comments.aspx
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There, even an eleven year old could understand that.

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So CUSA partners with Disney and is supposed to ship production this week? That's just nuts! Look, this is what they should have done, especially it they wanted to be accepted by the Amiga community.

They should have started out by hijacking a historic computing event to promote the product, showing a couple of revision 1 units - maybe set up a PC in a black box to give a "live demo". Then they should have set up a beta testing program, and started small with five units before going throttle up with a full 100 pre-paid "beta" units. In the meantime they should have been doing interviews with Commodore interest magazines, and Barry should have been replying to random subjects on the forums with meaningless yet inoffensive comments like "Very cool!"

All this partnering with Disney for advertising is just crazy kid stuff. Look, this "Tron" movie only grossed about $397 million worldwide - barely a blip on the radar compared to this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-4K9DSa7JI&feature=related

240 views FTW! In your face CUSA!

CUSA should really consider getting in touch with the marketing genius behind A-eon, if they want any brand recognition. Srsly.

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Hmmn a bunch of comments from people who are assuming the Amiga is "back" and the C64 is "back" who will probably be very disappointed when they find out that it's just the same as the Windows Pc they already have.

Doesn't really explain it to me, they are not bringing the Amiga back, the Amiga is/was a platform, the same as Windows/Unix/Mac/ST, this is a Windows platform machine with an Amiga badge.

So again, who are they aiming at?  PC users who want an 80s case?

The Amiga is much more than a machine..it is first and foremost an iconic BRAND!!! And how can you call our products a Windows platform, when we don't even promote or sell it with any MS s/w?
It is very clear that the only people who will be disappointed are the handful of members here, who refuse to open their minds to any change. All 68 of them, which is the average # of viewers online here, compared to the thousands and tens of thousands who are following our efforts to bring back to life a nearly dead corpse, who has been kept in hibernation for the last decade.
And as for who we are marketing to, tune in tonight at 12"01 AM EST, and find out.

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or the VW Beetle, now undergoing it's third rebirth as a 2012 model..which IMHO, is gorgeous!

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If the Commodore brand had such good ranking, why have half a dozen bigger companies (Escom, Tulip etc.) failed over the last 15 years?  Plus they were actually released in the 90s/early 00s when people still remembered Commodore as a brand.  Even closer to now, the Commodore Gaming PC rigs of 2007-2009 also failed.  Did he not use this very valuable research?  I'm sure the brand is still recognised, but past experience shows people regard it as an old brand from a different era, and are not interested in owning a Commodore these days.

Bananarama are still a recognised band name, but their albums in the 00s flopped.   Recognition and desire to buy are very different.

Many, many reasons why the other attempts failed: lack of funding, poor planning, misguided execution, market conditions, and most importantly, they were not me, and didn't have Leo.

I understand the uber-fans feelings. I really do. What I can't wrap my head around is the extreme insanity that is verbally expressed here over this adventure. Why do they really give a rat's ass about CUSA? Why? We are doing nothing from stopping them in their current activities. Nothing at all. You are all free to buy, not buy,laugh, cry, bemoan...all you want. It has no bearing on me or my company, nor do my efforts effect anyone one of you personally. Get help...get on meds...get a life. We are not claiming to have found the cure for cancer. We are not releasing the meaning of life or world peace. We are a business, having fun. Period. If it works, great...if not. so what? No skin in the game on your part. Not any of you will suffer one iota if this attempt falls flat on it's face. At the least, there will be great cases for you to insert your antique dreams and m/b's into. Have fun..enjoy the show..and for God's sake...lighten up!!

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That little machine gave me some of the happiest and most creative years of my life, and it breaks my heart to.........

I feel your pain; I really do. I can just imagine how you would feel if a REAL tragedy befell you. I can think of many: the death of a loved one, financial ruin, illness, too many to innumerate, and none which I would wish on my worst enemy. But what you are really describing is analogous to loosing your first love, and I am not referring to your old computer toys. Most of us have experienced the inevitable breakup of our first girlfriend or boyfriend. It was horrible...really horrible. You could never imagine yourself happy again. But guess what..time heals those wounds, and most of us move on, still remembering those moments, but still able to love again..and love another. As much, but not the same, of course.  I'm married to a shrink....and it gives me the advantage to see what maybe some of you are afraid to face. For those of you who feel so overwhelmed by all of this, talk to someone, and maybe get a handle on the problem. You may not see it, but this extreme over reacting is really not healthy, and is indicative of a somewhat aberrant behavioral problem. Send me a signed note from your therapist, and receive a free T-shirt.

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It seems that some people are already getting their Tron DVDs. Numbers are climbing fast.

Registrations are now going through the roof...between Disney and today's Engadget article, along with all the other sites that picked up the story, our servers are going full tilt...lucky for us they are all running on our "crappy Chinese, Windows PC format, nobody cares about, Commodore c64's". In the last 2+ hours, we received more registrations than the total number of members of this site. Guess the whole world is crazy. Who 'woulda thunk?
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What a nice patronising reply.  However it does seem that you don't understand/were not an Amiga fan from your reply, and have totally misunderstood this market.

I've lost family members and several relationships over the years, of course it's not the same on any scale.  

However my years using the Amiga were the years I first explored music making, 3d rendering, graphics, animation, video production, coding, gaming, the machine I first got on-line with, the machine that really sparked my interest in computing on a deeper level and most of the things I do for a career today started on the Amiga, it awoke my creative side in many ways, so yes I do hold the machine dear.  

It seems obvious the Amiga never touched you in such a way, hence your plan to just use it's name on any old worthless tat.

Read what other people who were passionate about the Amiga have said to try and get an understanding of what the platform means to many of us, Jim Sachs would be a good start:

"While other computers were mere appliances, the Amiga fired the imaginations of its owners."

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=54970&highlight=sachs

For me this was true, hence the reason I'm still interested in the platform 20 years on, if you're taking any passion out of the technology and it's just a brand to slap on any old computer, then of course, who gives a shit?  However to many of us here, the Amiga means more than it does to you.

Here's my personal Commodore/Amiga story. If I didn't have one, I wouldn't be doing this now, would I? early 1980's...was running a large business, but didn't want to spend the $$ on a "real IBM" system ( read: could not afford). The son of one of my managers told us he would set up a C64 (toy, in my eyes), and write all the specific programs I needed. The usual, just customized for our industry; A/R, A/P, Payroll, Inv control, invoicing , w/p etc. It ran great..and had these cheap little toys installed in all 187 locations. They ran flawlessly for years...and made me a shitload of $$, even with the noisy dot matrix printers! years later, I used the Amiga w/ Newtek Video Toaster in HUNDREDS of cable company headends for their character gen and other in house productions. made a fortune on that, because the only alternative was the multi thousand $ studio equipt. that they were all using before. Long story short..i loved them then..and I still love them now. Only difference between you and me....I took my $$$ out from next to where my balls rest (my pocket) and put it into something real......and you've done what to promote and help the "cause"