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amiga vs atari netsurf
« on: August 28, 2016, 11:35:05 AM »
i noticed that netsurf on atari seems noticeably faster than amiga.

here's a blurry video of netsurf running on atari falcon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obDYaWp0wPo
you can see scrolling is faster but also: page lookup, fetching and initial rendering too.

another video, (milan 040):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNpFrk0YF_Y
on this video scrolling is bad, but look at the response time, how fast it does the lookup, fetch and initial render between the different pages being clicked up..

we've seen that on amiga the scrolling can be smooth and fast with arti's port on netsurf, so it can be done no problem here.
(for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AoZireGWtc)

what remains is the response time between the pages we click, the fetching, and initial render of pages.
what could make netsurf so slow on amiga ? (arti port fails here too).
something in the compile toolchain maybe ?
 

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Re: amiga vs atari netsurf
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2016, 02:38:08 PM »
faster cpus ? the milan 040 ? i don't think so.

also the fastest option for falcon is 060, even overclocked,
i would say with apollo 080, in worst case scenario, we should get at least same performances.
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Re: amiga vs atari netsurf
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2016, 06:31:37 PM »
@chris:
i don't think the front end have much to do with the idea that netsurf seems slower on amiga.
i'm speaking of site lookup, page fetch and initial rendering.
for that effect, even without frontend at all is allright.
you could be rendering on a plain surface, without buttons,
input field, scrollbar or even without window decoration.

if you look again at those videos, you'll see that when the user click on some link, or enter address in location bar, the browser just react faster, it start fetching and loading the page almost immediately, while on amiga if doing the same, netsurf seems to wait a while doing nothing before it finally decide to do something.

i'm not trying to mock or blame or anything, what i'm saying is just observation, and my goal would be having better browsing experience on 68k.
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Re: amiga vs atari netsurf
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2016, 06:35:26 PM »
@slaapliedje

ok milan had 060, thanks for pointing this detail.
but still, we have 060 too we even have 080.
yet, we don't have same performance, why would that be ?
what could be causing this ?

amiga memory management, something in the compile toolchain,
bad tcp stack, a little bit of all those ? or anything else ?

here i'm just guessing, but, i think atari too have to be using sdl for their netsurf port.
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Re: amiga vs atari netsurf
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2016, 07:31:40 PM »
i agree checking with latest version on both side is important.
but that would mean previous version of netsurf were faster than current ones ?