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Offline Cymric

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Re: Would you support this project? -please read-
« on: January 27, 2004, 03:41:05 PM »
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AmiDelf wrote:
This Amiga with go on like this

1. Getting financial support from Motorola

2. Getting Shiftec to contribute with A4000T alike case

3. Talking with those hardware people with NuOS and Oliver

4. Intergrate some sort of MediatorPCI technology into this, + adding SD-RAM and AGP

5. Getting OS support from Hyperion in the end

We need Amigas now,.. ! This could work, but then its up to people also. Dont be negative and its not that expensive.

Methinks you should get your dose of 'real life'-medicine...

Seriously, the idea is unworkable. Not because of a single factor, like for example money, or enthusiasm, but because of the combination of everything you can think of. For example: 'getting financial support from Motorola'. Why Motorola? What's in it for them? How much money do you think you need? How much money do you think you are going to make?

Another example: 'integrating some Mediator PCI-technology in this plus adding SD-RAM and AGP'. How much time do you envisage this is going to take? Why would you need AGP if that bus is solely used for graphics cards your system won't need anyway? (You already have AAA+++ or whatever, right?) Come to think of it, why have PCI? A lot of stuff in your system was customised, so what would you need PCI for?

Final example: 'Getting OS support from Hyperion in the end.' Great. Hyperion has been working full-time on AmigaOS 4 for... three years now? And that was with the original Kickstart-source code at hand. How do you plan on convincing them they should support your system? How long do you think it will take them? How much money do you think it will cost? Don't you think it is a bit of wasted effort to use an operating system with a hardware abstraction layer for your custom Amiga? (In other words, what is the difference from the end-user's PoV between an AmigaOne with your AAA+++ on a card and your 'Amiga' with AAA+++ built-in?)

Then I miss: applications, applications and more applications. People will want browsers, email-clients, various graphics tools, developer tools, play music and much more. Do you plan on writing them yourself? Please do not answer with 'We will use OpenSource!' because that is a sure sign you are not familiar with the vast problems of porting Unix-programs to a non-Unix environment.

My $0.02.
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Re: Would you support this project? -please read-
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2004, 12:53:45 PM »
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AmiDelf wrote:
I want to go further than just daydreaming. I want a new Amiga now! So, I will go for the project from Monday on. Promoting it! Getting people involved and more.

Before you embark on your journey, answer this simple question. It has popped up in the discussion a few times, and you haven't answered it yet. And even if you think the majority of us here are cynical old bastards without a single spark of imagination and idealism, you really should think very hard about the answer. Not as much for us, but far more for yourself.

The question: What do you feel or think constitutes the 'Amiga feeling' you are trying to recreate with your new setup? Or, put in different words: What do you feel or think is currently lacking from the hardware we can purchase today---something so vital and unique that it is absolutely necessary to develop it yourself?

Right now, you are without a shadow of a doubt acting on impulse and a strong desire to 'get something going'. You select a few chipsets at random and pray to the good spirits that it will all, somehow, magically, come together. It doesn't work that way. Think before you leap: it will save you a lot of trouble later on.
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