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Offline Cymric

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Re: Firefox beta for RISC OS.. What about Amiga?
« on: June 21, 2005, 09:46:45 AM »
I must say I am quite impressed with that achievement. On the other hand, RiscOS is presenting itself as a sort-of-vague-Unix to that program, and that makes porting things a helluvalot easier. All the nasty bits are handled by RiscOS's UnixLib linker library---that's the infamous ixemul.library to Amigans. Nevertheless, keep in mind it has taken years of committed efforts of a small group of people, and that is just to get glibc and X11 going! That is completely comparable to creating AmigaOS4 or AROS.

Amizilla is trying to make it all native, but progress is exceedingly slow (people on the mailing list often excuse themselves for not having worked on stuff a great deal), and some of the problems they were facing just made me cringe with their complexity. There was one topic suggesting that a sort-of source scanner be built to transform every gtk/glib-call into a matching MUI/Intuition-one: the libraries just handle things so differently. You have my sympathies.

In any case, you can watch progress yourself on the mailing list: it lives on Yahoo! Groups. Don't be all excited, however: message traffic is thin, on average slightly more than one message a day, sometimes a little more when diffs to the NSPR are posted.
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Re: Firefox beta for RISC OS.. What about Amiga?
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2005, 01:57:01 PM »
Well, I gave the answer: a) making the computer appear Unixy; b) dedicating years of effort to it. I can think of others: c) the schisms between MorphOS and AmigaOS4 have taken up lots of energy and caused many people to abandon the platform; d) the build environment on OS3- (which the Amizilla bounty calls for) is spartanic and masochistic at the very least for a project of this magnitude; e) AmigaOS4 was in development by the time Amizilla was started; f) Mozilla/Firefox are moving targets themselves; g) Fleecy stating from time to time that Amiga, Inc. were pursuining their own browser/email client matrix (I think he put it like this, in any case); h) grumpy old men like myself who point out the sheer size of the project and openly wonder about the sanity of such an undertaking, pointing out the incredibly nasty programming problems dead ahead; i) split development efforts with high 'lets do this now' feeling, but little stamina and project management skills for the long haul (AmiDelf with his 'Next Amiga Project' anyone?); j) fanboys nagging about progress, how long to wait, status and what-not.
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