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Re: Would you buy a new PPC laptop, if A-Eon made one?
« on: November 26, 2014, 01:01:21 AM »
The cost would certainly be higher than that of the X1000 if we are looking at a multicore CPU at the 1.6HGz+ range.
The laptop/notebook motherboard would be a custom design with a smaller production run than the X1000. The custom design would either have to include an onboard compatible AMD (ATi) GPU, or if it went with some obscure but low cost embedded part then there would be the additional cost of the graphics drivers.
Not sure where people stand on the Xorro slot and would they consider the laptop/notebook less of a modern Amiga without a Xorro slot. If A-Eon released a portable without the Xorro slot they would be signalling that it is not part of the standard set of features.
What about other expansion ports like PCMCIA or ExpressCard 3/4?
Then there is the battery support in OS4.x, including sleep/deep-sleep support, power control.
Web cam, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, custom A-keys reduced keyboard, and touchpad support. Sure, some of this has already been done by Morphos and could be reverse engineered under license by A-Eon but all this extra work would be part of the development cost which would inadvertently become part of the laptop/notebook hardware cost.

At the end of the day it is all possible, it just seems so impractical.
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Re: Would you buy a new PPC laptop, if A-Eon made one?
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2014, 09:46:31 AM »
Quote from: ElPolloDiabl;778275
No. Would a 68k based laptop be possible?


Certainly. Anything is possible.

But perhaps something like this would be more practical:
http://hackaday.com/2014/04/02/bunnie-launches-the-novena-open-laptop/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+hackaday/LgoM+%28Hack+a+Day%29
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Re: Would you buy a new PPC laptop, if A-Eon made one?
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2014, 07:35:27 AM »
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Considering how little AmigaOS 4 and MorphOS demands of the hardware and still feel fast I could consider buying a really low end, low power consumption PPC laptop. Even a 400 MHz with 512 MB RAM would be enough. A 12" screen would also be enough (not 8", that's too small for me).

That might also attract people outside our camp. Some people just like a challenge, like getting the most out of such a weak computer. Not many people for sure, but at least enough for a bigger batch of laptops in one go, lowering the price.
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Yes, but you don't want a laptop just to run the OS. Even tablets and smartphones have processors capable of much more than 400MHz. It would have to be 1GHz or more to be practical and attractive to people outside our camp; Most of whom would run Linux.
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Re: Would you buy a new PPC laptop, if A-Eon made one?
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2014, 07:47:29 AM »
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The PowerPC (Power architecture) is not dead at all; it is alive and well supported by about forty companies; it is not promoted for home desktops nor laptops, but servers, mainframes, and super-computers.

http://openpowerfoundation.org/

I kind of feel that my X1000 is special in that way, but as a need for laptops with a Power CPU?  That seems silly.


Wow, forty companies. Talk about "glass half full". Whatever you are on I need me some of that.

When you go from one or two companies to forty, sure that's a thing worth celebrating, but when you go from hundreds to forty, well, it may not be dead but the buzzards are certainly circling overhead.

And most of those forty aren't doing anything near as fancy as servers or supercomputers. More like communications switching gear and climate control units. Your X1000 has more in common with a thermostat than it does with a missile targeting system. Still, controlling temperature is special; in its own way.
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