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Re: Which OS Would Be The Best Amiga Way Forward...
« on: May 21, 2011, 04:28:43 AM »
Actually i thought Smerf was right. But only half right. I think Morphos is the best Amigaos available but i would never use it full time. I don't like the hardware it runs on. I want to use an Amiga not an Apple.

As for hardware alternatives to run non Apple Morphos, like what? Pegasus? Efika? Can you name anything that is readily available and modern?

I also disagree that Apple is just another hardware company. It's not. I saw on tv this morning scientists comparing Apple to a religion. When was the last time HP was compared to a religion? Never. There are a couple of reasons why i don't want to use Apple hardware but mainly i don't want to be an Apple fanboy in denial. I also don't want people to think i'm too cheap to use a real Apple os and instead am using a cheaper mediocre substitute.
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Re: Which OS Would Be The Best Amiga Way Forward...
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2011, 10:51:56 AM »
@ piru. You are not going to respond to Frankos personal attack on you? C'mon, you can't let him get away with that! :hammer:
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Re: Which OS Would Be The Best Amiga Way Forward...
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2011, 10:25:18 AM »
@ Hotrod. Amigadave is right. I have only been on Amiga.org since last September and even i now about the red camp vs blue camp feud. If you have been an active member since 2002 then surely you must have witnessed the famous red vs blue flame wars :confused:
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Re: Which OS Would Be The Best Amiga Way Forward...
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2011, 12:38:43 PM »
Franko it's true Piru does jump the gun really quickly when someone criticizes Morphos but i wouldn't call him obnoxious. Being a developer for Morphos he has a right to be proud of his work and that means he can get defensive if he wants to. For me the line between being obnoxious and proud are quite large. Both are similar but not the same :)

@Hotrod. I for the record sit neutral on the fence when it comes to ng Amigas. I can appreciate them both. The red camp being faithful to classic Amigas which is great for nostalgia and the blue camp trying to modernize Amigaos which is also fantastic. Each to their own i say :)

@Amigadave. Grow up. You "ignore" someone just because they don't agree with you? On forums when having a debate you can expect to receive a certain amount of banter. It would be really boring if everyone just agreed with you :)
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Re: Which OS Would Be The Best Amiga Way Forward...
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2011, 11:26:53 AM »
@Franko. I don't know what's scarier. The Amiga crashing or the commentary :roflmao:
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Re: Which OS Would Be The Best Amiga Way Forward...
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2011, 01:25:30 PM »
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@ Wawrzon & Hardwired

I thought so, it gets a wee bit confusing though when folk start talking of AROS & UAE together (I have to keep in mind that my main/only interest in AROS is on the 68k side of things)... :)

Having disassembled the real 3.1 ROMS years ago and modifying them for my own use it became clear to me that although the code in them was pretty efficient there was still quite a bit of scope left in them to be optimised a touch further... :)

For example there a couple of hundred lines of code in the 3.1 ROMS like these...

$f8e00 bra.l $f8e04
$f8e04 rts

or

$f8e00 bra.s $f8e02
$f8e02 rts

Now by simply changing all of these bra.l & bra.s to rts, then the cumulative effect (all be it in milliseconds) produces a very slight speed increase in the day to day execution of the ROMS routines (as SysInfo verifies) but just changing these also leave the the ROM 100% backward compatible... :)

There are other things I've changed in the ROMS I use including some patched with BlizzKick modules which all lead to an overall system speed increase when using ROM images and every bit of extra speed you can squeeze out of any Amiga system can only be a good thing... :)

But I believe AROS 68k is more aimed at producing a copyright free ROM image and adding/updating extra features into the ROM image that although this might not make it 100% compatible with all old programs/ games that make direct calls to specific ROM addresses the simple fact that it will be copyright free and may include improved/new features make it a very worthwhile way forward indeed especially for the like of the NatAmi which I really hope make it into production... :)

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If your so smart Franko maybe you could make your own and show them how to do it properly? ;)
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