Is Natami Vapourware?

[Kesa]

Obviously trolling, but just wanted to chime in that I agree - their recent updates (especially the ones "by that guy's daughter", sorry I can't be bothered to dig up a link right now) have been phenomenal!  

I'm not a fan of "that guys daughter". Every time i see it i get the impression they are taking the piss out of me  :lol:

[Kesa]

By some definitions (very long time coming, still not available) I think it fits into the category of vapourware by now, but even though Ive thus far been a bit iffy of Natami I still do expect something to see the light of day, so I personally dont feel comfortable labelling it as vapor.

I agree. Vaporware is such a harsh word. As soon as something is labelled "vaporware" it automatically becomes something bad which is utter crap. I'm not prepared to give such an absolute judgement on the NatAmi at this time and all of the negative comments so far in this thread are a complete exaggeration.

C'mon guys let's not judge them as failures until they actually fail. At least give them a chance to do some good.

[Kesa]

If they had fully working boards, they would release it, don't you think? But they haven't got everything together yet, it's not ready, it's not here. Vapor is something you can't grab. I couldn't get a fully working Natami today even if I tried. It's not even finished enough to be released, and only time will tell if it will or won't make it all the way. Mind you, I actually think most of these projects reached a stage of working physical prototypes, but they were still shelved before a release. Don't get me wrong, I like the Natami and I hope it makes it. But I'm not holding my breath. I fully consider it vapor until they *really* have something for sale. Only time will tell if it ever will.

WOAH WOAH hang on a minute. Maybe Morphos has the luxury of using established hardware like Apple Macs but remember NatAmi are not just making software for established hardware but they are actually making the hardware itself. It's a bit different so maybe you should stop comparing NatAmi to Morphos and start giving encouragement.

Jesus i'm starting to sound like a NatAmi zealot   :eek:

[Kesa]

What has MorphOS got to do with anything?

Look, all I'm saying is that the Natami is a *very* ambitious project (with a custom CPU and everything), and that I (and probably many others) have been "let down" by so many other promising developments that has been *half* as "ambitious" as this one is. I'm not saying that Natami will fail, I don't want it to fail, but most projects *do* in fact fail, some at a point even further down the road than Natami is now. I do like to read the progress reports, it sounds promising and all, but so did so many other projects as well. So I'll consider it being real and tangible only when it's out for sale. Until that happens I'll not invest any "emotional capital" into this one.

Anyway, I have made my point regarding this and won't post further. I just wanted to respond to your strange and out of the air "compare Natami with MorphOS" statements. I never did that. Why would I?

Sorry, I was just assuming you were comparing the NatAmi to Morphos. Just looking at your avatar and your sig gives the impression of bias

I am only a recent addition to the Amiga community so i may not have been burnt like some others around here. But i can see lots of new things coming over the horizon such as the new kickstart, and constant advancements with Aros, that really have me excited. So i don't think being negative is the way to go. Once we start turning on each other the Amiga is doomed forever.

Why not post anymore in this thread? I wasn't attacking you i was just making a point so i'm sorry if i offended you. I'm not trolling