Yes "and" !!!
As long as those boards don't appear at normal users I remain sceptic.
You know like there where a few A1-G3 this summer, a few
Pegasos in late 01, 200 hundred more last fall, or 2 Walkers by Escom
and 40 A4000T by C= .......
as long as it ain't available for Joe Smith it's not there.