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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« on: February 21, 2011, 01:19:47 PM »
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I'm all over it... ;)

It's higher than thou copyright mafia that can't get over it even after all these long years...:)


No, it hasn't been long years as far as copyrights are concerned: http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-duration.html.
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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2011, 04:30:36 PM »
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AROS is such a beautiful project.. :)


Yes it is, thankfully the screaming and sneering against AROS has died down a bit over the years.

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Who is that entity that claims to own the girl of Amiga... I WANT TO SEE IT NOW...!!


Either ask AI nicely, or do something that will force AI to sue you and then in court you can subpoena all ownership records, are your two options of seeing ownership of AI IP.
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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2011, 04:31:33 PM »
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no fishing.. the big stick
Money is no relevans... freedom is

why donate to something that is already free...


Stolen property is never free.
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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2011, 04:38:36 PM »
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Stuff the copyright laws, it has been very, very long years if your an Amiga user..


It doesn't matter if you don't like it Frank, it is what it is.   Just pay what Amiga Inc wants for ownership of it's IP and do what you wish with it.  Simple, isn't it?
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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2011, 04:40:53 PM »
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Well Commodore USA will have to supply the Kickstart and C64 ROMs for their emulators for VICE and UAE so we will finally see who actually owns the Kickstart copyright once and for all.


It's been said publically on commodore-amiga.org that C=USA does have a license from AI for kickstart/wb.
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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2011, 05:03:59 PM »
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So that makes Commodore-Amiga.org the official mouthpiece of CUSA then does it... :lol:


That is correct, announcements will be made on CA.org

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So why doesn't CUSA state it on their own site then ???


Probably because no one who goes there would care in the first place about that level of legal details.  They want to see product information and pricing.
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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2011, 05:07:40 PM »
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Heh. Then you have more in common with Barry Altman than you wish to admit, since that's exactly what he did with the C= logo being placed on his site in order to find out who would complain, thereby determining who owned the license rights.

"Altman says he slapped the Commodore name and logo on his site in an effort to, well, locate the rights holder."

#6


Wow, Franko is Barry's long lost brother!  Family reunion time! :rofl:
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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2011, 08:00:55 PM »
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Yeah, well, I'll shed a tear for the poor infringed parties when they start demonstrating the tiniest iota of concern for or interest in the actual Amiga community.


What has the community done for AI lately that would make AI concerned about the well being of the community?
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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2011, 08:08:16 PM »
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number 6, you need to get your legal base straight, A trademark... HAS NOTHING to do with copyright or IP.


Oh yes it is! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property
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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2011, 08:27:57 PM »
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dammy, do try to read you own link.... let me help you a little..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark

Did i not say TRADEMARK... get it???


You said in the above post:
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A trademark... HAS NOTHING to do with copyright or IP.
?  Yet in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property clearly says, "Common types of intellectual property include copyrights, trademarks, patents, industrial design rights and trade secrets in some jurisdictions."
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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2011, 06:43:32 AM »
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The true laws says hi too

Pay very close attention to this link, since it governs the very foundation upon which we stand..

http://www.uspto.gov/

quote from the United States Patent and trademark office:
"There are three types of intellectual property: trademarks, patents, and copyrights."


So what do you think that means?
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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2011, 06:54:18 AM »
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Meh.  To each his own.  If I wanted to talk on a forum about computers and software NOT amiga related, it would be on the Arch or Ubuntu forums, or the Nvidia/Intel forums.


Funny, there are three subboards dedicated to old school Amigas.  But you already knew that, right?

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Plus, I've read some of the comments over on that forum before the CTO or Wolfie pulls them.  There's trouble in toon-town over there as well, and not from your basic run-of-the-mill Aorg trolls...


Nope, your way off base on this one.  Other then the AROS subboards being deleted, there has only been a few post/threads "deleted" because of robo-spamming.  Here is a hint for you, "deleted" posts/threads are still seen by staffers, they are not actually tossed into the void.  I would see such deleted posts/threads if such thing was going on.  It's not and you are wrong, end of story.
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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2011, 09:19:52 PM »
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quote from the United States Patent and trademark office:
"There are three types of intellectual property: trademarks, patents, and copyrights.


What we got here is failure to communicate.  I have a feeling you are incorrectly comprehending this quote.  "Trademarks", "patenets", and "copyrights" are as subsets of a group known as, "Intellectual Properties."  There for all three are considered apart of the group known as "Intellectual Property."
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