POLL: What is the most viable Amiga platform for *you*?

[dammy]

None of the above but I picked "other" (I think I did anyways) as the default pancake choice.  I was tempted in choosing UAE but outside of one or two games, I can't figure out what else I would really want to run on it.  But I can finally see why the 7 million former Amiga owners never came back.

[dammy]

Very curious as to what it is makes you think these "7 million former Amiga owners never came back"...

(PS: how did you arrive at that figure and how do you know they "never came back"... did you know them personally...

7 Million figure was from Dr. Kittle (C= Germany) on TeamONE ML years ago which he broke down production by the different Amiga series.  I would be completely shocked to learn if there were more then 20,000 active Amiga users world wide and wouldn't be surprised if it was  under 10,000 and declining.  Had any of the different Amigaoid OSs (and or hardware) made a difference to those former 7M users, the Amiga community today would be on a much different footing with that type of money being spent.  So the current AmigaOID OSs are not doing it, the community should be huge by now (after 10+ years) if there was the slightest bit of a chance to attract a small portion of those 7 million former users back to our community.

Randy

[dammy]

I've bitten my tongue for far too long, but I finally have to ask,....

Try Seroquel.

why do you still hang around when you do nothing but bitch and moan and antagonise? Is that your interest in "amiga", to simply annoy people who enjoy thier hobbies ?

I plan to buy a new Amiga this year.  You?

[dammy]

Interesting. What did you expect though? People to stop using computers completely because Commodore tanked in 1994?

I only used an Amiga until I bought a x86 in 99 or so.  I agree, today only a small minority only have an Amiga and no other PC.  That does explain what happened to those 7 million users and now probably under 10,000 active Amiga users.

The truth is millions of Amiga users have a PC or Mac and can see it for the inferior design ethos it is and only use it as a means to an end or for work. Doesn't mean 6,990,000 ex Amiga users like those machines at all.

By that mentality, if OS4/MOS/AROS hasn't been able to gain traction with those former Amiga owner which are now using the  "inferior" M$/Apple OS, that can only mean they think OS4/MOS/AROS are worse then Windows and OS-X.  That sounds like a pretty harsh rebuking to me but if it works for you.

Amiga was an elegant solution in all areas, this is missing today but as walking into PC World only offers you two 'affordable' solutions what are we supposed to do? Not use a computer at all or bid up the last handfull of PPC cards on ebay up to $10,000 :roflmao:

Amiga was good, but what made it good also was a load stone around it's neck, the custom chipsets which couldn't be updated to keep up with the rest of the world.

Sadly it is exactly these kind of people C= USA is trying to con into buying their crap pretending they are somehow Amiga

First of all, they have the Amiga name licensed to them so it is an Amiga.  Just like Eyetech's horrid Teron mobos rebadged as AmigaOnes, it's a license product sanctioned by AI, get over it already.

Second, since you are claiming C=USA are conning people, what URL do you offer as proof C=USA actively doing this?  Or is this another smear and run post?  And no, feedback from confused or ignorant third party does not count.

[dammy]

Ah, yes, the recently (ie. about 6 months ago at best) announced, yet to be released "Amiga's" that people know next to nothing about yet. Funny thing is though you've been bitching/moaning in one way or another for many years. Your interest in C-USA seems to be little more than another way to antagonise, but this time with something new to put into you itinerary. Must be exciting times for you.

Actually, this is the quiet before the storm.

[dammy]

But they didn't call them "C64" or "Amiga" - they called them what they really were: Commodore 386/486 PCs...

Guess what, they are calling it C64x and Amigax and people can not be confused if they read the product info which clearly states it's a PC with dual core Atom (Amiga info hasn't been released yet).  

This is the next generation series, if you don't like it being x86, that's just going to be too bad for you.  Well, there maybe ARM versions, if that would make you any happier.

[dammy]

Once more: calling something the next generation of something you didn't even design, and which it has nothing in common with, does not actually make it the next generation. It doesn't matter how often you repeat it, that won't make it true.

IIRC, the mobo for C64x is custom designed by Barry.  Keyboard and it's associated board is custom as well.  Good enought?

Also, while I like ARM as a general thing, an ARM-based system that has as much nothing in common with the Amiga as this being called the Amiga (whether or not there's a piddly little X on the end to allegedly differentiate them) would piss me off just as much.

I can feel your rage. I felt the exact same about those awful Teron mobos being badge as AmigaOne.  If you think the A1X1K has the right to be referred as an AmigaOne because it has a customized mobo, the same should be applied to the C64x.

[dammy]

I heard they were using coke at their meeting.

Not me, water only.

[dammy]

I should have phrased that a little more clearly. I meant that C-USA did not design the original, actual C64 or Amiga, not that they didn't design their current products. My objection is not to the lack of creative work done on the Numiga (though I do find it annoying,) it's to the idea that calling it the same thing (sorry, "the same thingx") is sufficient to make it the successor, even when it has nothing more in common with the Amiga than any other PC on the market. It's like if Lawrence Welk bought out the Hendrix estate, recorded an album of his usual fare, and then tried to release it under the name "Jimi Hendrix."

First, nothing has been released in detail (atleast none that I know of) about the upcoming Amiga models other then what box series they are going to customize (just like A-EON is going to do with the A1X1K's modified box).  Second, C=USA, like Eyetech and now A-EON, have a license to badge what they want as specified in their license agreement.  Third, more information, including more details about the OS that will run on Amiga series should be released after the C64x's launch.