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If this is reference to AmigaOS from Hyperion, it should remain PPC.  I see no financial reason for Hyperion to under take such a man power intensive project to port a OS that can never generate a profit.  I don't think they have the number of Devs to do a port if they wanted to.

I don't see a reason for MOS to go x86 either for basically the same reasons.

If you want x86/PPC Amiga-like OS, it's called AROS which is being ported to Genesi's EFIKA-MX.  You want to support it financially, go pick a bounty of your fancy and spend some meaningful money or buy a iMica or AresOne.  

If someone developes a true next generation AmigaOS that isn't hobbled by 3.1 API, I may be interested in supporting that myself if there is some intelligent road map for it.
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Re: Do you approve of PPC (in some form) as the future of Amiga?
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2010, 01:21:17 PM »
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Architecturally can the PPC ever reach the performance of the x86!?


As far as desktop CPUs?  Unless IBM is going to release new PPC cores, not happening.  Only thing Freescale is doing is repackaging the old cores.  IBM's cells are for consoles and not suited for desktops.  That leaves you basically with x86_64 or ARM as CPU choices that are in constant development.
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Re: Do you approve of PPC (in some form) as the future of Amiga?
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2010, 02:11:34 PM »
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What about the ppc in PS3 ?


It's not a good desktop CPU, it's designed for consoles.  Then I do not think Toshiba (since they bought Sony's share of cell production) is selling it to anyone else but Sony.  So unless IBM is producing new cores to keep up with x86_64 multi cores, Freescale and others are going to keep repackaging the cores they have licenses for.  Freescale is pushing ARM for a reason. ;-)
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Re: Do you approve of PPC (in some form) as the future of Amiga?
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2010, 03:18:38 PM »
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Amiga OS must runs in PPC but neither will be very bad that it runs on X86 but with PPC and 68k compatibility, well, AROS for example.


You lost me on this one.
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Re: Do you approve of PPC (in some form) as the future of Amiga?
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2010, 03:58:46 PM »
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Freescale just recently released the brand new e5500 core.


From what I see, it's a follow on e500 core for embedded systems that Freescale has been talking about since 2004.  Not really applicable for desktop CPUs which we are discussing when comparing the multi core desktop beasts of Intel and AMD.

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Nobody is pushing ARM for anything other than mobile devices.


Tell that to M$ and Google efforts for ARM based server farms.  The recently announced ARM-15 can be a winner in none mobile device CPU market as well as mobile.
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Re: Do you approve of PPC (in some form) as the future of Amiga?
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2010, 04:06:02 PM »
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Of course, the CPU isn't what makes the Amiga, it's the custom chipsets and ingenuity in the design. I don't care what CPU architecture it uses, so long as it's got some flair that makes it more than just a rebranded PC motherboard.


With the computer case closed and out of sight, how can you tell the difference?  It's the user's experience that counts.
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Re: Do you approve of PPC (in some form) as the future of Amiga?
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2010, 09:11:02 PM »
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X86, but it's the OS'es that must be completely ported to X86.
The goal should be that 3.1/3.5/3.9/4.1 run entirely on X86, if we accomplish that, then Amiga as an OS has a future again.


Problem is of course, your still chained to 3.1 API even if you go x86.  Keep OS4 on PPC only, neither are going any where.
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Re: Do you approve of PPC (in some form) as the future of Amiga?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2010, 08:35:07 PM »
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Tell me, what colour is the sky on the planet upon which you spend most of your time?

A 3.2Ghz P4 is in a whole other league of performance.

Inb4claimsofbias


So where does the dual core PA6T fall in that chart?
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