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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« on: June 19, 2010, 10:24:59 PM »
"North of 1500" GBP?  I'll stick to my original guess of 200-350 units sold in the first 12 months, including the 100 Dev boards.  ACube's 460 looks mighty cheap compared to the A1X1K.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2010, 04:59:34 AM »
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Anyway, I can't help but wonder how fast UAE would be on a 6 core rig. If 5 people use their X1000 money for a multicore UAE bounty thats over 10k. Seems like a better use of the money.


I don't think that would work with the latency issues between the cores.  Atleast that is the reason I'm hearing the maintainer for WinUAE won't consider doing the project.  YMMV
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2010, 12:53:53 PM »
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Nice the see the rumour mill in full motion. Lets all wait an see.


You mean like to have A-EON publish on their webs site a clarification?  Or even have Trevor post on here a clarification of what he said?  I'm sure he could spare a minute and do it on his cellphone if he wasn't near a laptop and hotspot.

This is clearly a PR disaster.  If the "North of 1500" was indeed correct, then I expect we are not going to hear from Trevor or A-EON.  If less then 1500 is correct, why aren't they on here stating such?  I think their lack of input is very telling, don't you?
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2010, 12:56:33 PM »
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hate to say it, but even at 300 dollars, the only people who would buy it would be amiga enthusiasts anyways.


For $300, that would generate sales from the outside wanting to see what it was all about or outsiders wanting to run their preferred OS on it.  For "North of 1500" GBP, you will get few to none.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2010, 01:03:37 PM »
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Hyperionmp quote at (my) post 42 is what they clarified this morning.


And he (Ben?) did not bother to confirm or deny that "North of 1500" remark.   To me, a lawyer refusing to refute a statement can only mean one thing, it was stated correctly.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2010, 01:44:40 PM »
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Given the cost involved in designing and producing a new hardware platform and the need to make some profit out of it (if there is to be any continuation of the effort), I can believe the 1500+ mark. Especially also given the comparatively small production run sizes. Trevor's own words were to the effect of "I can't see it costing less than that".


I can see making a few bucks off @ system to repay R&D/T&E costs.  Unless this SoC CPU is costing them in greater then 1000 GBP @ unit, 1500 GBP is just excessive IMO.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2010, 02:25:35 PM »
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Well, to be fair, all major console manufacturers have followed that route, recouping the cost in software sales. Furthermore, Microsoft can afford to make a loss on hardware, given the vast amounts of wealth they have at their disposal.

I really don't think it's a reasonable comparison here. Unless Trevor is a massively minted eccentric, I just don't see that model working here.


For a tiny start up business like A-EON, it's about cash flow.   I'm sure the 75K EURO deposit from the pre sales of the 100 Dev boards will help in their cash flow.  Even more so if there is indeed more EUROs required on top of the deposit.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2010, 02:46:55 PM »
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I don't know what A-Eon's business plan is or their projected sales, but unless I am missing something I think they are in for a rude surprise about how many systems they can sell at this pricing. Don't get me wrong, Trevor seems like a nice guy and I genuinely wish him well.


I completely agree.  Everything I've read from or about Trevor, he seems like a really good guy.   I think what he missed from history was that C= made their money selling cheap stuff (C64, Vic20, Amiga 500/1200), not the big box items.  What sunk C= was they were unable to compete in the big box (486) market and were stuck with unsold inventory of slower 486s.   Bang:buck ratio sucked.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2010, 05:36:26 PM »
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If you want i have a spare one here for the A2000, they work with adapters...


I think there is a real market for quality "A" USB keyboards and mice.  There is no reason why Hyperion or one of their licensees (or AI for that matter) couldn't make reasonable money on selling them.  They need to stop going for the high hanging fruit and sell the low hanging fruit that is easiest to pick.  But it's awfully hard to tell a bunch of elitist that they can make money via volume sales vs their high end products with a nano size market potential.
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