Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?

[dammy]

Software could be coded to take advantage out of the chip and this would be a benefit to users owning this system. You dont need to be a programmer to get some advantage out of the chip...

Exactly what are the benefits for this chip for the average computer user?  If you do not need to be a programmer to get advantages out of this chip, what can it do without code to run on it?  I just don't see it.  It's more like that useless FPGA for desktop that comes with the SAM440.  Best guess for the SAM440, it was intended for embedded and got shoehorned into being a new Amiga mobo.  I have a feeling this X1000 has the same history behind it, it was ment for the embedded market but now is being rebadged for Amiga market.

One has to wonder if the price for this X1000 going to be so high, it's going to increase Acube sales as it may then look like reasonably priced cpu/mobo?  Nice piece of marketing if that is the original plan.

[dammy]

sofar i have seen xmos chips might be used to controll lcd display modules, say large lcd displays could be controlled by clusters of these chips. if there is going to be any easy out of the box solution for achieving something like that using amigaos and this mobo (and maybe hollywood) it might be interesting for me. i see no other advantage atm.

Might be interesting to find out who originally produced this mother board and what they intended it to be used for.

[dammy]

Oh, I dunno. It's supposed to be a event-driven processor right? You could always use it to perfectly read your joystick port in "realtime" without any CPU induced latency.

That would be a big win to one guy around here

I'll bite, what game does OS4 run that requires such low latency?

[dammy]

If we all agree that ANY new Amiga will be always directed to the Hobbyists niche (other niches require too much investment), what we'll really need is: Hobbyists SW. What are those?
* Do I really need fully 2010 browsing experience probably having a powerfull dual core windows or osx notebook some inches away from my x1000?
* Do I really need OpenOffice? Anyone plan to use x1000 for Serious Business?

What hobbyists tools should be?

Until OS4 is fully SMP, it's not going to matter if it's dual core or not.  Yes, this is a nano sized niched market that can not support anything beyond SAM440 pricing if you want volume sales of four digit, perhaps three digit.  If the X1000 is $2,500USD or more, it may not leave the two digit sales volume.

[dammy]

Somehow I doubt it.

As to the CPUs, A-eon and Varisys secured them when PA Semi put out a request for final orders.
Its no great mystery. PA Semi was shutting down production and didn't want new customers (that might depend on an item that was eol).

I don't get the who NDA bit about the PA6T.

[dammy]

Now can you see why I ignore you so much... if not here's a little clue...

YOU  ARE  AS  THICK  AS  S%!&E...

Why do you have to personally insult people?

[dammy]

It's not an insult it's a statement of FACT... you dunderheid...

PS: Bit rich that coming from the guy who spends half his time on that weird MooBunny site, insulting me and anyone else you care to mention... soooo.....

YOU  TOO  ARE  AS  THICK  AS  S£!&E...

Moo has a different TOS then AO.  You sure can dish it out, pity you can't take it when it's dished back at you.

[dammy]

That's an appropriate comment if a notably superior successor is getting close enough to buy instead of the much delayed thingamy.

What else is coming that is 64bit, has Altivec, that many slots, etc? Sam460 is a good board, but it's a different performance/feature class item. And for those that want as high-end as possible, nothing else is known to be coming that would stomp all over the X1000, or even just somewhat surpass it.

The only thing I can imagine at this point, considering the PowerPC restirction forced upon us, would be something based on a many-core QorIQ, the 64bit version, with Altivec put back in. It's rumored that Altivec will return and be in some QorIQ chips, but not announced or known for sure, not by we the Amiga public anyway, and certainly not any details about what else would be in "The Return of Altivec" chips.

So, considering what we know about successors to the high-end X1000, waiting is annoying. Yes. But no longer worthwhile, from me the customer's point of view? There's nothing else to eclipse that board, so yea, we'll just go on waiting and waiting.

Why not just go with a PPC Mac like MOS has?

[dammy]

But its not really fair to compare off the shelf X86 hardware with limited production PPC boards, is it?

Why not?  If the hardware runs an Amiga-like OS, it should be fair game to compare it with other hardware that runs Amiga-like OS as well.  It's completely fair to compare it with x86 or used Macs as in the case for MOS.  Once COS 2.x running on new Commodore Amigas are out in the wild, it's going to have to be able to compare with hardware AROS is running on, MOS is running on, and what OS4 is running on.  That is a lot of choices for the end user to decide on, which is a wonderful thing compared what we had 12 years ago.

[dammy]

I take the point about about comparing AROS/AOS4/MorphOS on different hardware because      when it comes down to it, you are talking about the actual computing experience and hardware  plays a part the same as the OS and also the available software does.

Yup, it's about the user's experience and what they will pay for it.

[dammy]

Leo is heading to the lifeboat already?

Most likely diaper changing since his wife is expecting.

Back on topic, what's the news on the A1X1K?

[dammy]

@Kesa

Probably for the same reason people say "Peg" instead of Pegasos, "A1" instead of "amigaone" and "Sam" instead of "Samantha": It's shorter and easier to write!

Exactly, it's not like we have never seen A2K or A3K or A4K abbreviations for the big box Amigas being used.  I would be far more worried about year plus delay on production then how someone abbreviates it's name.

[dammy]

Speaking of which... are they bankrupt yet, don't seem to hear much about them anywhere on the web these days (thank gawd)...

Maybe they got raided by the border patrol and all their illegal immigrant workers were shoved back over the border (hopefully Dammy got deported too)...

http://www.commodore-amiga.org/forum/27-commodore-usa/5072-shipment-begins?limit=15&start=255&lang=en#6855

So Franko, what's the new bet with your brother?  You haven't told us yet.