Genesi selects IBM PowerPC for Performance-intensive Pegasos Release

[dammy]

Nessus is the bomb! =)

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Poster: Neko Date: 2003/12/4 15:55:59

PowerPC processors are just that little bit harder to produce exploits on than x86 processors. You have to do a LOT of legwork that x86 does for you.

So sparc or MIPS based security box should be even better then?  

Granted, PowerPC isn't 100% unhackable, but.. it's not AS hackable and therefore MORE secure.

That would might be true if PPC and x86 (guess that would leave out IA-64) were running the same software.  That isn't the case.  Now, how about doing a nifty demonstration for us.  This security device vs x86 running Linux/FireWall1-NG and let's see who can configure the which firewall with minimum problems.  Afterall, the best firewall on the best hardware is worthless if it's not configured properly.  :-D

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Poster: gary_c Date: 2003/12/4 21:29:53

The Pegasos Guardian will be running ShopIP Crunchbox on OpenBSD.

And that will do what compared to Linux/FW1-NG?  How about PEg/SHopIPCrunchBox vs VPN-1 Edge?  Note the prices on the latter.

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Poster: gary_c Date: 2003/12/5 2:03:17

Those prices seem to be just the application software; the Peg/Crunchbox prices are for a complete system. Otherwise, I don't know much of anything about the pro net security market.

No, that's including hardware, see here.

You're right -- it has to be competitive; the Guardian seems to have some positive points and presumeably a competitive price will be charged.

Checkpoint is the clear leader, there is nothing better then those guy's products.   If Genesi with their partner are going to get in that same market, they have to have a better product and a MUCH cheaper level then what Checkpoint is offering.  Edge1 appliances are something new from Checkpoint and it's going to be damn hard to compete with those pricing levels. :-o

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Poster: downix Date: 2003/12/5 10:07:50

I looked at Checkpoint, they do not offer the same performance level nor even close to the same features. Please compare like with like, don't grab a machine that can do only 1.5Mbps and compare with one going Gbps+ and wonder why the price is higher on the latter.

True, these are the embedded devices which CheckPoint has recently (I had no idea that they had released these yet and shocked to see the low pricing) released for the small business needs that do not require FW1-NG.  For most small to medium, those embedded VPN-1 Edge devices is overkill.  For $300, the S8 delivers Firewall/VPN throughput of 22/3 Mbps, allows 8 total users to traverse the gateway, and provides 1 remote access tunnel at one time.  If your looking at the upperend, the XU delivers Firewall/VPN throughput of 150/30 Mbps, allows an unlimited number users to traverse the gateway (no license limitations), and provides 25 remote access tunnels at one time.

Now, if your looking at enterprise level, CheckPoint's bells and whistles are alot highier then $15K for server/management software.  Then again, out of Fortune's 100 list, 97 are CheckPoint customers.  For a list of what enterprise level apps and supported hardware, check here.

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