AOS4 & Amigaone

[dammy]

Everything in Amigaland is SOUR and the companies trying to save the Amiga and its OS are the worst of the bunch

Which is why I champion the Open Source version of AmigaOS.  

Dammy
TeamAROS

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by drHirudo on 2005/11/6 10:54:43

It's a standalone operating system aimed at being compatible with AmigaOS, but it's not AmigaOS, like MorphOS is not an AmigaOS, despite it's also AmigaOS binary compatible (at some level). They don't belong to the AmigaOS version tree.

Of course it's not AmigaOS, that's owned by someone else.  It is a open source version of AmigaOS and even MOS is based on AROS.  That does not make it a foriegn OS, but a very fimliar one to all of us who have owned Amigas over the  years.  No where did I say that AROS should be in Hyperion's CVS, but Hyperion is free to do so, if they so wished, since it is under a open source license.

If I write an OS for university project, which is source or binary level compatible with Windows (at some degree) would that mean that I would write a version of Windows then?

Sure.  I would say that is a drHirudo version of windows then.  Wether you open source it or not is another matter.  

Have I connected enough dots for you, or do I need to go into further detail why AROS is an alternative to closed sourced AOS/Amiga-likeOSs?

Dammy

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by reflect on 2005/11/6 14:15:16

They take a commodity motherboard with equivalent or better specs, then compare the prices and come up "the A1 is overpriced!". Now, have you ever considered the other costs, apart from manufacturing?

But that is not the consumer's problem, it's Eyetechs.  Consumers want quality for their hard earned money.  Things get even worse when the prices are far too high and quality is far too low.  Hell, it's pushed A1s into laptop pricing, and not too many people are going to spend that type of money for an OS not out of beta running on a buggy mobo.  Let alone the other items you need to buy to make the mobo/cpu into a computer.

The A1 series is a flop, get over it already.

Dammy

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So now the argument shifts from money to quality? Yes, it's pricey for the reasons stated above. Yes, some thing don't work quite as they were intended. But ask the owners if they're happy or not. That's the only thing that matters in the end anyway. The A1 ownerns I've met and know, most of them have said "yeah, DMA/Ethernet/USB is a shame, but I(or my dealer) have worked around that problem so it's no longer a problem for me" and they all seem quite happy with their purchase.

Regardless if the software is disabling some/all the faulty MAI chipset's DMA capabilities, it's what the prospective customers are thinking about that matters. I'm hearing on here and else where it's the price and the lack of support from Eyetech that makes people pass on A1 series.  OS4 maybe a very nice OS, it's just not the only Amiga-like OS in town.  That means there are alternatives to it and that gives alternatives to different machines other then Eyetech's.  

I think sales of A1s prove my point, it's a financial flop.  So much so, I'm betting Hyperion is in no hurry to release anything but "beta" code in fear of having a hord of coders wanting their long due monies.  What's the English phrase for this, "buggered"?

Dammy

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by FrankBrana on 2005/11/7 13:18:16

Buy machines, AMiGA or PEGASOS, but support real machines. Yes these machines we dreamt for years, and now that are developed, everyone finds "flaws" on it.

Why buy it all if they do not have any advantage to other computers?  It's the OS that matters, not the machine.  With the era of ~$500 laptops that are faster and cheaper then the bare bone PPC cpu/mobo , it's rather foolish to pay for more and get less.  

That is why Amiga was a big success, it did far more for far less.  Yet today, people think of doing far less for more cash is a winner.

Dammy