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Offline Senex

Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« on: July 19, 2003, 09:06:20 AM »
Thought so, too, back then when I saw it the first time - but fortunately most people will download it from FTP anyway rather than getting the Superbundle physically.

Once they aim at the broader public next year or so, I'd suggest that Genesi changes the cover of the bundle, since I doubt it will fit the european and especially german taste, rather being kind of problematic maybe.
 

Offline Senex

Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2003, 09:55:41 AM »
Yes, olympian, that's why I think it might be not such a lucky choice - since the style of the cover of the packet itself (rather than this logo here) might remind some people rather of Olympia 1936.

Personally I certainly don't mind this (besides that it's just not my kind of taste), but if even I think the cover could be problematic because of this, then it might really turn out to be it later.

I can imagine that most readers here - not familar with the situation today in Germany regarding "political correctness" etc. -, can't understand why this cover could be not the optimal choice, but being an international and professional company, Genesi will have to be aware of the different cultures, politics, "published opinions" and tastes, etc.

So while I can really understand that for example from the US-american mentality such a "hero" is a pleasant choice, I just want to point out that even already in Germany, as US-americanized as it already is, it wouldn't fit that much many people's taste. I.e. while the actual case isn't that much a problem (not that many customers yet and most of them will download it instead anyway), I just wanted to remember Genesi to be aware of such thoughts once they'll also start selling to the masses in culturally really different countries.
 

Offline Senex

Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2003, 10:25:49 AM »
@meerschaum

Not generally olympian="nazi" of course, but the style of art the actual cover is drawn reminds of the art favoured during the "thousand years" of the Third Reich.

@bbrv

Am always positively surprised and glad to see which broad knowledge the heads of my favourite computer manufacturer do have, be it younger history/sports like in this case or ancient history, philosophy, literature or other topics in other cases. Am agreeing with Saint in that other thread at MorphOS-News.de that I wonder where you get the time from to build up and run a company, educate yourself that much and play demoversions of games Epic is porting to MorphOS. :-)
 

Offline Senex

Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2003, 04:06:00 PM »
@downix

No insult intended. But it doesn't matter in this regard that this style was quite popular back then in general - what does matter is how it is perceived by the broader public. A good example is the swastika - I doubt that many people outside India would perceive it with the thought: "oh, have you seen that sanscrit symbol they use"...
 

Offline Senex

Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2003, 04:23:17 PM »
@magnetic

You think it would be ridiculous to see something "nazi" in everything and especially defaming opinions (which would be matters of course in every other country) to be "nazi" to muzzle people?

If so, I have to say two things:

1) You're absolutely right.

2) Welcome to Germany...
 

Offline Senex

Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2003, 04:30:21 PM »
@magnetic

Yes, of course, to us it's obvious what Andre had in mind when he created this logo/cover: the old comic super-heroes. But please keep in mind what I said in my previous comment and in the one to downix.

All in all this Superbundle-hero is certainly no dramatic mistake - I just wanted to use this example to make Genesi sensitive for the matters related with being an international company with markets in culturally different countries.

But Raquel and Bill's reply reassured me that they are aware of these problematics. And as I said already many, many monthes ago on ANN and at other places I do share their opinion they mentioned here regarding the benefits of Genesi being a european company.
 

Offline Senex

Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2003, 09:23:34 PM »
André, certainly it's not the majority of Germans who could have a problem with stuff like this. But rather a vocal minority. Anyway, as I said I mainly wanted to make your company sensitive for matters like this one, not less, not more.

Furthermore it may be true that I'm more sensitive to this topic than our average countrymen, based on my own political positions from the liberal-conservative part of the spectrum - but if this is because of a kind of "persecution complex" or rather because of being more familar therefore with the situation in our country regarding political correctness and the "Kampf gegen Rechts", remains a question...