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Offline WolfToTheMoon

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Re: Does Hyperion own the rights to OS 3.1, 3.5, 3.9?
« on: October 29, 2010, 09:42:36 PM »
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It is not really that important to be "Official".
We can extend the life of 3.9 as much as we can, but then there is no future in it, and every step we go forward is getting more difficult and slow.

What is more important than extending the life of 3.9 with huge coding efforts, is to empower AROS guys to deliver an open modern and freely available 68k operating system for our beloved Classics.

For this, I keep my fingers crossed, my hopes high, and pray for them every night before I go to bed. ;)


PS: But, just in case AROS devs cant deliver, I will still try to keep pushing 3.9 forward.

You think AROS will run fast enough on 68K?
Hmmm... what I'd like to see is a Coldfire-based replacement board for 68K classics that could run OS 3.9 or/and AROS(68060 is 88 MIPS@66 MHz, Coldfire is 400 MIPS@233 MHz) that would include a more powerful gfx chip and faster bus/memory + FPGA for 68k custom chips. Atari Firebee shows the way(it costs 650 euros, pricey, but somewhat still acceptable).
 

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Re: Does Hyperion own the rights to OS 3.1, 3.5, 3.9?
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2010, 10:38:13 PM »
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Coldfire is not compatible with the Amiga.  The End.

Not out of the box, it isn't... but with some alterations to the amiga os, it could be. Same with TOS/MiNT on Firebee.
 

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Re: Does Hyperion own the rights to OS 3.1, 3.5, 3.9?
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2010, 11:14:51 PM »
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It is not possible to edit all 50,000 Amiga apps and convert them from Motorola 680x0 asm into coldfire asm.  Therefore Coldfire is not compatible.  Final Answer.

Not according to Atari Coldfire team...

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[SIZE=-1]- CPU 266 MHz The main component of the MCF5474 is a ColdFire V4e Core. It is very  similar to the 680x0 CPU family, but not fully compatible. Basically,  some complex or rarely used instructions and addressing modes have been  removed. Thus the ColdFire CPU is more simple and cheaper than any 680x0  CPU, while being a lot faster. With an additional lightweight software  layer, the ColdFire CPU can be made compatible with existing 680x0  programs. [/SIZE]

They intend to run TOS/FreeMiNT on it so it is possible.
 

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Re: Does Hyperion own the rights to OS 3.1, 3.5, 3.9?
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2010, 11:30:31 PM »
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Not the first time Atari ST users were wrong about something. :D

:)... but they sure got that Firebee thingy right. I'd love to have one like those to run OS 3.x... Good thing about Firebee is that you can use it as a PCI card in any PC or a standalone motherboard. It is a nice project.