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Re: Ubuntu 10.10
« on: March 21, 2011, 09:18:57 PM »
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I have a logic analyzer that needs win. If it was not for it, I would not need it.
What I do have a problem with is, I have trouble finding apps on Linux and at times installing apps.


If you don't like the shell and you don't like the "ubuntu software centre" thing (can't say I am overly fussed with it myself), there's always synaptic as a GUI alternative to apt.

Regarding your Windows apps, have you checked to see if your logic analyser's installer package can be invoked under Wine? I've successfully installed a few Win32 applications in Ubuntu (64-bit). I've even had some applications just run (albeit with default settings) without installing, when I mounted my Windows partitions and had a mess about. You might be surprised, Wine is getting pretty good these days (see: http://extropia.co.uk/img/penguin.jpg - "debris" is one of Farbrausch's tiny Windows demos).

Of course, the nuclear option, particularly if you have a multiple-core machine is just to run a cut down Windows install in a virtual machine hosted on Linux if you really need to.
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Re: Ubuntu 10.10
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2011, 11:04:04 PM »
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personally I have only used OpenShot on my Ubuntu 10.04, but eventually will get Blender and try out some new features. It has great potential so far.....


Let me guess, you were using 8.04 before? Or is it just me that uses the LTS releases for the long haul?
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Re: Ubuntu 10.10
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2011, 11:34:43 PM »
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/me raises hand

My main workstation stays on the LTS releases.


I only just updated to 10.04 a few weeks ago. It was getting bad when Nicholas was laughing at my "current" machine for "running a retro OS" :lol:
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Re: Ubuntu 10.10
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2011, 11:50:33 PM »
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Linux is fine for bread an butter ie web/comms/ and office for an average user.

If you dabble in 2D photo manipulation, 3D, video editing, well, on Linux that can be a painful experience.  And games..


It depends. You can run a fair wedge of software designed for Windows  via Wine these days.

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If what you want is Ubuntu's software centre, installation is fine.  If not, its a pain.  Eg I muck about with emulation SNES, N64.  Even Instaling the latest versions that aren't in the Ubuntu software centre is a pain in the  arse, compared with the Win versions.


If you want up to date releases, you could download the source and compile it yourself. Generally only stuff that has been found to be reasonably stable will make its way into regular repositories.

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Stability wise, XP Pro rarely crashed, Vista hasn't-at all- and neither has my Win 7 laptop.  It hasn't been my experience that Win is any less stable than Ubuntu.


Yeah, as long as you look after it, any reasonably modern OS tends to be fine in that regard. In my experience, most people have problems with Windows due to naivety.

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As for security, I'm not convinced that Ubuntu is any more secure per se, just that less time and man hours is devoted to exploiting its holes.


Actually, exploiting most linux systems is fairly easy, provided you are sat at the machine. What sets it apart from Windows is that it's a lot harder to exploit remotely, and that's the type of exploit most users will unfortunately be exposed to at some time.

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And there must be holes, else why are the security updates being released periodically for it?


The sort of vulnerabilities that are routinely found and fixed tend to be things like potential buffer overflow exploits. Sometimes the context in which the vulnerable code is called actually renders the vulnerability "unreachable" from where it is ultimately invoked since some sanity checking further up the chain blocks it, but regardless of whether or not it can be reached, if spotted it will be fixed and find it's way into a security update. This is basically one side effect of having a transparent development process.

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I don't particularly like the Ubuntu (Gnome and KDE 4) look and feel either, and I don't think its as fast and efficient as its claimed.  I think its the Windows of the Linux world; people use it because other people use it.
 

I wouldn't say it was that per se, but it has certainly gained a reputation for comparative ease of use. In itself is debatable, but there is now such a large community of users that whenever you do find a problem any google search will usually return a ubuntu specific discussion.

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And i hate the "re-install after 18 months" release cycle, or go to LTS and possibly end up with a POS like 10.04 where i couldn't even get a mobile modem to work, even though it was fine in 9.04.

IMO MAndriva was the most polished Linux out there.


My recent 8.04 to 10.04 distribution upgrade was truly shocking, to be honest. Shocking that it went so well, that is. I was expecting a lot of pain, but the truth is, the biggest nuisance was the time it took to download the various updates/replacements for the 1400 odd packages I've accrued over time.

Anyhow, I suspect you aren't about to try it, but you might find Mint a better distribution for your hardware. It's an ubuntu derivative with a bit more emphasis on including more drivers and various proprietary components (that may be a better fit for any given bit of hardware) out of the box.
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