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I am saying this because i saw upgrades that could bring a cyberstorm up to 400mhz.In everyday computing life on internet we need more than 256 of ram unfortunately.
So has anyone ever tried to do it?

Theoretically, no existing version of AmigaOS can use more than 4GB of address space, since all pointers are 32-bits wide. Not all of that address space can be RAM either, as you have to map hardware into it too. IIRC, ~2GB is the limit for RAM.

However, for any version running on a classic machine, you'll run into other hardware limits before that. For instance, 256MB of Fast RAM is the physical limit for BlizzardPPC boards, since each slot only recognises SIMMS up to 128MB.

On the CyberstormPPC, I think the limit is 128MB. You can, however, add Z3 RAM, so shove a couple of ZorRAM sticks in the machine and you could probably boost over 1GB. However, that increase would come at a cost in performance, since the CSPPC would be forced to access it via the Zorro bus, which is much slower than it's own local memory bus.

I can confirm, however, that OS4 classic is perfectly usable on my 256MB BlizzardPPC.
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Re: What is the maximum memory that can be used under os 4.0 classic ?
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2010, 05:09:24 PM »
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OS4 for CSPPC just accepts CSPPC local memory. Motherboad&Zorro memory modules are completely ignored. Joerg Strohmayer decided that Motherboad&Zorro memory support should be dumped in favour of swap memory (even thought no OS4 classic version with stable swap existed)


I wasn't specifically talking about OS4. Z3 RAM is far slower than the local CSPPC memory regardless of whether you're running 3.x, 4.x, MOS or indeed any other operating system that can run on the system.
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Re: What is the maximum memory that can be used under os 4.0 classic ?
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2010, 06:03:50 PM »
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On my A1200 Blizzard 060/PPC, 60Mhz/240Mhz, 256Meg Ram, running OS4.0 is like running an Amiga with only chipmem, it's way too slow.

You already said you don't have an RTG card. OS4 works on AGA but it wasn't designed for AGA. Having said that, when I did run it on AGA it wasn't that bad (640x512 PAL, 16 colours). Graphics operations weren't noticeably slower than they were on 3.x and some were faster. Overall performance for 68K apps was on par (some better, some worse) than my 040, PPC native apps obviously fared much better. OS4 native versions of PPC apps that worked under 3.x/WarpOS were noticeably quicker too (highlighting the degree to which the PPC is hampered in a primarily 68K OS environment).

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Is their a minimum CPU type/speed needed to run OS4.0 at a speed that would come close to an A1200 with fast mem, or any hacks or patches that would make OS4.0 run at a useable speed on my set up... :)

You need a graphics card. I'm running it right now at 1280x1024 and it's fine. Considerably quicker than the RTG setup was in 3.x on the 040.
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Re: What is the maximum memory that can be used under os 4.0 classic ?
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2010, 06:13:11 PM »
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I've been trying to get hold of a BVision board for years now, but without any luck. The last one I saw on ebay was described as faulty and the guy wanted £150 for it. I don't mind paying silly money to get hold of one but the things are so difficult to find. :(

Anyone got a BVision for sale, willing to pay a good price for it... :)


You could also look for a Mediator1200 and find an old Voodoo 3 card.
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