Amiga vs PC

[Karlos]

This is so true.

I guess it's easier to say "we don't need it" than "you're right, it would be great, but we don't have it now, that's too bad". Seems like some people still live in 1989, thinking the Amiga is still cutting edge in a lot of areas... Problem is it's 2010, and it's lagging in pretty much every areas instead.

In the process of becoming more and more obsolescent, I actually find it quite interesting to see just what can still be done with it though.

I still find it much more fun writing code for AmigaOS and m68K than I do for modern kit. The only thing that's really piqued my interest on the latter is GPU stuff.

[Karlos]

Side note: I see classic Amigas as modern machines, new peecees are simply much faster, but that's all they are, faster.

I could add a few things to the list other than "faster". How about

cheaper
better supported
better modularity
more compatible (consumer devices, network protocols etc)
more operating system choice
more application software choice

These are all tangible benefits for most users. Let's face it, the Amiga as a hardware platform is not modern. It was modern in mid 80's, but every hardware advantage it had has been either surpassed by it's rivals or rendered redundant in some other way (planar pixels were great for scrolling but nobody uses them  now). Whatever could not be beaten by elegance has certainly been bested by orders of magnitude increases in performance applied to whatever less elegant solution was used instead.

Try running AROS, amithlon or even just UAE on a current "peecee" and tell me you don't find any advantages at all.

[Karlos]

Would that be the same Cray 1 that in 1975 ran at over 10x the clockspeed of your first Amiga and supported SIMD/vector execution?

Let's face it, those are techniques we still use today, but the Amiga never did (well, unless you count the altivec unit in OS4/MOS machines or SSE in AROS boxes).

[Karlos]

Yes, that one. Cost million of dollars, needed a room to operate, had a power consumption of 15000 Watts (or something similar), no ide hard disks, and probably some I didn't mention. That's not very modern.

Using your earlier argument I could just say that modern systems are simply smaller and use less power and thus the Cray 1 counts as a modern machine. After all, architecturally it shares things in common with SSE etc.

[Karlos]

Surprised at you Karlos coming out with a crazy statement like that, I mean comparing a Cray 1 to the Amiga...

It was in response to somebody else that brought it up. However, let's be realistic here, it's a far less silly comparison than a classic 680x0 machine versus a modern 64-bit x86 one. Cost aside, the performance gap between the latter pair is far greater than the performance gap between the first.

[Karlos]

Think I should start a new Thread & Poll, something along these lines

Franko... Should he stay or should he go now...
Or
Franko... Amusing or Annoying...
Or
Franko... Pain In the Ass or A Wee Touch O Class

Or maybe a poll on a poll about what to call my poll... :biglaugh:

You forgot "attention seeking" :lol: