Thoughts on the A1Lite and mainstream markets

[Karlos]

Realistically the amiga never has and probably never will compete with x86 systems hardware costs, making comparisons with mini-itx PC costs irrelevent.

Hands up all those amiga users who can honeslty say that the money theyve spent on their amigas (and pegasos even) couldnt have bought them a 'faster' PC?

Yet all we invested in those more expensive, 'slower' systems anyway. Its all about our free choice to do so, because at the end of the day we all know that the amiga is far greater than the sum of it's parts.

We've always done far more with less. In terms of useability, no 486 25MHz on earth can hold a candle to my 040 25MHz powered amiga, even if it was running linux :lol:

What does that say about a 1GHz G4 running OS4?

So what does it matter if the A1lite costs more than a comparable x86 system? A 2GHz celeron being cheaper is totally irrelavent. A  Celeron cannot run OS4 or MorphOS, hence will never be in competition with the A1lite, A1, Pegasos etc.  so why even bring it up?

As long as it isn't prohibitavely expensive (but fairly and reasonably priced for what it offers) people will buy it.

[Karlos]

@Kronos

Whether you agree or not, you could buy 286 PCs that were faster than the A500 (in MHz terms) for less than the price of the A500, even then. There were 25MHz systems available for the same price in the A500 heydey, our bloody school bought loads of them (urk!).

No doubt many will say that the A500 was still faster overall because it had a cool design that took the load from the CPU and a vastly superior OS, and I agree 100%.

Which is why I think your previous statements about present amiga/future amiga systems not being cost effective versus PC components of the same performance range is still as irrelavent now as the old 286 v A500 was ;-)

[Karlos]

Kronos wrote:
@Karlos

Seems like you are comparing 1990-prices .....

Possibly. I think it was 1989 when they bought those damn 286s. They were 25MHz systems IIRC (maybe 20?)

And than you had a PC that was slower (sorry but the 286 wasn't anything
hot), and only had a Herkules-monochrom GFX-card.

I know. I said they were faster in CPU terms (the systems our school got I mean), not prettier.

Its an irrelavent argument, you see, just like comaring the price/preformance of the A1Lite to x86 based ITX systems :-)

[Karlos]

Yes, but it doesnt matter a rats bumhole if x86 cant run OS4 / MOS, does it?

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blimey, how far back up the thread was that anyway? :lol:

aslo I should say that for me, it was never the better CPU/graphics capabilities. I got my 1200 in 1993 - for me I got a "less powerful" piece of hardware (considering I could have gotten a 386DX/VGA for the same price) that ran a far more efficient and fun OS...

[Karlos]

@Dammy

Which, IIRC is only at best sourcecode level compatible with 3.x for now :-(

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OS4 and MOS will evlove their own way as will AROS, do doubt. I dont really forsee compatibility improving over time.