An Inconvienient Truth, - Global Warming

[Karlos]

Cue the inevitable claim/counterclaim "discussion"...

The problem with global warming is that the issue has become totally politicised in the worst possible way so that clarity has become near impossible.

Some will have you believe it's an entirely natural phenomenon, others will have you believe it's entirely caused by human activities.

The truth of the matter is that nobody is sure what the current trend really indicates. That said, it's my opinion that given there is evidence to suggest we are aggrivating the problem we should do what we can to minimize that effect and see how it pans out. It's the logical course to take. Unfortunately, governments rarely, if ever, consider anything beyond their term in power. Given we could be looking at massive problems in say 50 years time and not tomorrow, no existing government really cares.

[Karlos]

Hum,
They dont have any scientific arguments against Global warmng now.

Perhaps, but the sad fact is that any policy making will be in the hands of politicians, which are susceptable to lots of other arguments other than scientific. As I said, the argument has become politicised which is one of the worst things that can happen. Absolutely no genuinely effective counter measures are remotely possible (thanks to realpolitik) now.

Face it, we're fecking doomed :lol:

[Karlos]

@PMC

Exactly the sort of politically motivated statistical fudging I was getting at when I said:

The problem with global warming is that the issue has become totally politicised in the worst possible way so that clarity has become near impossible.

[Karlos]

Looks like perpetual motion to me. Much as I enjoy well established areas of physics getting a shake up, the first law of thermodynamics is pretty damn robust and has stood the test of time.

Its all well and good them claiming to be awating validation by cynics but the burden of proof is really theirs IMNSHO. So, unless they provide a working specimen and the theoretical physics behind it I'm not remotely convinced.

[Karlos]

T_Bone wrote:
I heard the temp on Mars(?) is rising like our own. When are these Environmentalists going to pull their heads out of the sand and do something about the energy wasting Martians, before it's too late?

Let's hope Mars warms up enough for all the dry ice to sublime and maybe the increase in temperature and surface pressure might liberate some water. That'd get the terraforming crowd all excited ;-)

[Karlos]

Looks like there could be plenty of water to liberate too...

When the viking probes subjected the martian soil to heat and water vapour, a considerable quantity of (presumably chemically bound) oxygen was released.

Should knock a comet, preferably one rich in tholins and what not, into a collision path with the place :lol:

[Karlos]

Only Dave Lister is allowed to play pool with planets.