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Re: AI - a load of tosh?
« on: October 24, 2006, 03:54:45 PM »
"Intelligent" systems are very rarely programmed. They are trained.
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Re: AI - a load of tosh?
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2006, 04:12:02 PM »
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True but behind that system of heuristics sits a deterministic algorithm that some logic circuits mindlessly execute.


Different from the electrochemical signalling between neurons in what way, exactly?
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Re: AI - a load of tosh?
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2006, 04:35:06 PM »
Unless you can demonstrate a significant functional difference between natural and artificial self-organising information processing systems, given the latter are modelled on the former, how can you confidently conclude that artifical systems are incapable of these things?

They likey are not be capable at this stage of their development, no more than a worm's cortex is at creating literature. Yet, the same basic neural cells grouped into vastly larger clusters ulitmately are.

Furthermore, there's no reason to assume that future neural net machines will be entirely semiconductor based. Scientists have already demonstrated neural cells from some snail or worm (can't recall which) being used to perform binary addition.
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Re: AI - a load of tosh?
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2006, 01:43:04 AM »
Not sure about the timescale but I wouldn't be surprised if a machine passes a full Turing test some day.
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Re: AI - a load of tosh?
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2006, 12:25:20 PM »
Yeah, he was definately a bit of a twitcher.

However, having studied QM in enough depth to elucidate the strange chemical properties of atoms and molecules I can fully understand why :lol:
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Re: AI - a load of tosh?
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2006, 01:27:11 PM »
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golem wrote:
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Karlos wrote:
Yeah, he was definately a bit of a twitcher.

However, having studied QM in enough depth to elucidate the strange chemical properties of atoms and molecules I can fully understand why :lol:


Are you a chemistry student Karlos?
I once tried to get my head round a populist book on QM but
failed really I think.


Yep. I had a real passion for it as an academic subject (still do, in many ways) but towards the end of the first year of my doctorate however, I had developed real misgivings about the industry itself, let alone the prospects for getting a decent R&D job (more and more chemists were being made redundant by brute-force "array" synthesis techniques). Luckily, I had IT skills as a plan B.

IT companies might be just as self serving, but at least people aren't dying waiting for treatments to become profitable enough to be worth making in any quantity.
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Re: AI - a load of tosh?
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2006, 11:05:43 PM »
pah, they used ceil() rather than round()...
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Re: AI - a load of tosh?
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2006, 01:27:15 AM »
What, like 2.029x10^3 AD? :-D
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