New Diet Coke!

[Karlos]

You wouldn't see me touching sucralose with a barge pole.

There's no way I'm freely ingesting chlorinated sugars. Sure, there's presently no evidence to suggest that your metabolic system can grab hold of it since the chlorine atoms have replaced the main hydroxy attachment points. Still, give it a while to become established and watch the next shock discovery that an hitherto unknown (which may only affect some) process in the digestive system is able to partially metabolise it, perhaps only in very small amounts.

However, therein lies the problem. It only does take very small amounts of chorinated carbon radicals to do an extensive amount of permanent damage.

[Karlos]

They've tested other substances a lot longer than that and discovered they were dangerous.

Just have ordinary sugar, and have a sensible amount.

Coke isn't exactly good for you no matter what they sweeten it with anyway :lol:

I was permanently put off by seeing what a leaky consignment of the concentrate did to the docks at my old town.

2 fire crews and a specialist hazmat team had to deal with it. That still didn't prevent it eating through reinforced concrete.

[Karlos]

How about nitrite salts as a preservative for meats etc? Used for centuries.

Discovered in the last 10 years or so to be responsible for the production of nitrosamines during normal cooking and especially frying. These compounds are highly carcinogenic, but alas there is no way of knowing how many cancers have been caused or partially caused by this since nobody has ever considered any link between eating cooked meats and carcinogens from the above process. That doesn't mean it didn't contribute to some or even all of those cases.

[Karlos]

Wayne wrote:

Trying to drink a regular mountain dew for example tastes like drinking carbonated lemon-flavored syrup.

There's a good reason for that ;-)

[Karlos]

@Wayne

Wayne wrote:
I'm sure in typical Karlos fashion, you'll now break down the chemical composition of Mountain Dew

Thank God for that, I thought you were going to suggest something to do with socks :lol:

but you miss the point.  Until I started drinking diet drinks, I never really noticed what sodas tasted like, just that they were cold, wet, and bubbly.

Actually I do know what you mean there. I generally prefered the diet versions of drinks purely because the normal versions used to make my teeth feel weird in addition to the  overwhelming sugary taste.

Now that I've discovered that I like the taste of diet sodas, regular sodas are all but undrinkable.

To see what I mean, over the course of two weeks drink nothing but Diet Coke.  Don't stop drinking sodas, just drink diet instead.  When you pick up your next non-diet soda, all you will taste is sickeningly sweet sugar and syrup.

As I said, there's a good reason for that, and that reason is because this is exactly what they are.

Not actually a good taste really.

Agreed.

[Karlos]

Wayne wrote:
come now... chemistry 101.  Acids and bases do not mix.  The sole exception seems to be my Orange Julius recipe which mixes OJ / Milk / Water and Vanilla (and tastes yummy)

Wayne

That sounds pretty ... different?

I'll try anything once. What's the ratios?

[Karlos]

Wayne wrote:
Karlos,

Orange Julius Recipe

Wayne

Cheers. I'll try that one soon :-)

[Karlos]

@Bloodline

Ever noticed that just about every other substance ever used as a sweetener is orders of magnitude sweeter than sucrose?

It comes as a surprise to hear that sucralose is so sweet considering that it is basically sucrose (the chlorines just replace the hydroxy groups that your metabolic pathways use as anchor points).