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[Karlos]

*sigh* :-(

[Karlos]

mboehmer_e3b wrote:
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We will need for the whole operation, if we only calculate the read/write times, forget about the self timed sector erase operation and omit all housekeeping of the filesystem, in total a time of 0.18sec. For writing one (1) bit.
In case of changing one byte we end up with random access times in writing of 0.18 Byte/s, or 180 miliByte/s

:lol: Any faster and the machine would implode, its casing physically sucked into the vortex left in the near relatavistic data transfer's prodigious wake...

Seriously, I doubt that were such a random IO mechanism designed that it would be implemented in such a way. Unless made by MS or something.

Surely the mirrored area would be kept in RAM and then the rom area updated after a sufficient amount of it had been modified, or some time interval elapsed, whichever happened sooner.

All this talk of using a flashrom as a sort of reusable hard disk replacement sounds pretty stupid to me - don't these things have a limited number of write cycles anyway :-?

[Karlos]

mboehmer_e3b wrote:

It's not MS, unfortunately, it's originating from the FlashROM technology itself...

I get you :-)

Surely the mirrored area would be kept in RAM and then the rom area updated after a sufficient amount of it had been modified, or some time interval elapsed, whichever happened sooner.

In principle this would work, but then you have a RAM disk, and you will be better workig with RAD:

Well, a RAD: that supports a power down and not just a reboot. Not a totally useless idea ;-)

With the possibility to crash the machine at any time, or switch it off or reset it, you cannot gurantee data integrity with such a RAM / FlashROM mirroring.

Very true, but I don't see that any other storage devices have a better time. You can crash or reset before all your system buffers were flushed to your hard disk etc. It's a bit worse for the flashrom case assuming you mirror all of it and not just a few pages as some sort of write cache buffer.

Anyway, I'm not taking the "flashrom as disk" idea too seriously, but I don't think any serious attempt would work in the method described, not if 0.18mB/s was the theoretical max ;-)

[Karlos]

Is there the slightest risk that this thread might get back on topic this year?

[Karlos]

Gentlemen, can we please exercise some restrain?

This bickering is not making either side look very good to the average buyer.

@tjaoz

I have to admit, whatever your agenda is, in the time I have been a member here I have yet to see you express an opinion on anything in the fora that isn't directly slamming a product that is in competition with an Elbox one.

This does not do much for your credibility, nor does arguing with the designers of a rival product over their implementation - you simply cannot know more about their product than they do. Quite why you take this approach is beyond me.

Perhaps both sides can simply explain the virtues of their product without mentioning their competition?

[Karlos]

tjaoz wrote:

Hello Karlos,

Could you please make an extra effort and view this thread from its beginning...

Who said I was specifically talking about this thread? As has been demonstrated, you crop up in any thread that has a possible elbox plug opportunity.

Now you see what Hodges wrote to my post. Note the personally offensive and aggressive mood of Hodges comment. See how this boy speaks about products of another company. See his posts. With his aggressive posts, Hodges shows only that his hatred of Elbox has become a psycho illness.

I also already pointed out that in the personal attack sense, youre as bad as each other once you both get going. Like "please miss, he started it..." schoolkids. Frickin grow up already.

As regards a 'rival product', I am not a producer but a USER of many Elbox products. I know from my experience how Elbox cares about the highest quality of these products, how they care about continuous updating of their software and how fast they respond to my emails sent to their support.

I never said you worked for elbox. I said you never fail to promote them and rubbish the competition at any given opportunity. Again, viewing your post history demonstrates this.

If you want to find people speaking here about 'rival product' check posts of Hodges and Boehmer. They ARE producers of Algor and Romulus. Algor/Romulus was not the topic of this thread BTW.

And at no point anywhere in this thread did you inferr their design was inferior to elbox's, right? :lol:

As regards my discussions about technical details of some products, I do not say I know them better than their designers...

Let actual testing confirm this, rather than simply assuming one is better than the other for whatever reason. Throwing techical info around and playing poker with numbers demonstrates absolutely nothing.

Boehmer and Hodges often publicly attack Elbox and Elbox products. And they always cry that they do it only because they are attacked by Elbox, which is not the case.

Unless you do start working for them :lol: ;-)

Sorry, no more responses today.
I'm going to see the match Wisla Krakow - Real Madrid. :-)

Good! It's reassuring to know you have other interests. Enjoy!