Amiga 2000

[mrmoonlight]

Ha,ha... yes, what you call your "WORKBENCH" partition, I call "SYSTEM" (of course you could name it "GreenSqueekyFarts" if you wanted. :rofl: Not to be confused with "File System" of course being FFS, SFS, Etc... But, you already know all this!!! LOL

LOL
        Hey gizmo you must be confusing me with some one
               who knows what the hell he is doing ,where as
         its more like monkey see ,monkey do.
 but the Amiga 2000 will live again
                    believe you me .lol
           my many thanks to you Brian.

[mrmoonlight]

Indeed, I've been known to name it "Warning" To keep out friends that think they know computers.

LOL
Calling it warning just reminded me of this http://youtu.be/jfh-YY465HA where the Robot
kept saying warning,warning and this was years ago when I were a lad

nothing to do with A2000 but we in England loved this show LOL
LOST IN SPACE LOL best wishes Brian:laughing:  oops after watching the clip I don't think he said warning as much as I thought, but still a great show .

[mrmoonlight]

Strange! MeTV was showing the premier episode of Lost in Space (in Black and White!) while I was typing the message above. I like DR. Smith better as villian rather than a coward.

Hi and yes but if I was the Robot I would have zapped DR. Smith years ago lol. best wishes Brian.

[mrmoonlight]

Lol, used to watch them every week when I was a lad myself. Great old stuff!

Chris

Hi Chris, great old stuff indeed ,you know I am sure we used to watch it in Black and White and all the family would crowd around this old battered tv and my Father would keep banging on the top of it to keep it going, and:) wow it sounds like a Amiga doesn't it ,they were wonderful days and now back to my Amiga lol very best wishes Brian.

[mrmoonlight]

Watched that one and the other king of disaster shows "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea"
Irwin Allen used to make a bunch of the stuff in the day.

Chris

Wow where did all the good programs   go ,I loved "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea", and now in the uk  we get cooking programs and folk in the jungle eating disgusting creepy crawlers ,yuk .

[mrmoonlight]

Hi finally got the new/old harddrive and turned the Amiga on with the A1200 install disc inserted but still there is no hard drive showing ,I don't know if its any thing to do with the wires for the hd led lights and power led lights not being connected I don't know because I never disconnected them so I am not sure which wires go on to each set of three connectors
the top pic is to the hd led light wires and the bottom pic is to the Power led lights wires any help please , I can also hear the hardrive working but it seems to be spinning very fast .
 
 

[mrmoonlight]

If you pull off the LED housing you can see which wires are connected to which LED. Just squeeze it a little and tug. Wait, that sounds naughty. :p

AFAIK you won't hurt anything by hooking them up backwards, but these not being connected won't stop your hard drive from being identified by HDToolbox. When you start HDToolbox, does it say anything like "scanning scsi.device"? Are the tooltypes for HDToolbox set for the right device?

  Hi it said nothing about scanning ,and I am not really sure what Are the tooltypes for HDToolbox set for the right device?[/ or how to check, all I can say is the installer is 3.1 which I use on my A1200

[mrmoonlight]

If you right-click and get Icons -> Information for HDToolbox, what does it say? I don't have a 3.1 system handy right now, but I do have some 3.1 install disks. See attached picture:

Hi if this is it ,then it said HD Tools draw  readable, writable executable , delectable and nothing at all in the big box

[mrmoonlight]

Hi if this is it ,then it said HD Tools draw readable, writable executable , delectable and nothing at all in the big box

oops sorry it said  SCSI DEVICE NAME =scsi.device
 SCSI MAX ADDRESS=6
 SCSI-LUN=7
 XT-NAME= XT

[mrmoonlight]

Well, that sounds like the right settings in HDToolbox, then. I hate to say it, but have you triple-checked the termination on your SCSI device chain? Try unplugging everything but the hard drive and putting the termination jumper on that drive.

Edit: Check the jumpers on your A2091, as well. What are they set to? And what's the ROM version?

Hi on the HD it said TE, AO,AI,A2

[mrmoonlight]

Without googling the specific model of hard drive you have (which is something you could do), I'm going to assume TE is Termination. Run your SCSI cable between just the hard drive controller and the hard drive. Disconnect your CD drive. Put a jumper on TE. What you've gotta do is simplify your system down to one device. Get it working with one device, then try adding additional devices.

OK thanks very much

[mrmoonlight]

My popcorn guys don't indicate that I'm bored by this thread.... oh Contrare Monfrair! (HA! I'm sure I spelled that wrong!) Anyhoo... I love it when Brian has moments of epiphany! I love Amigapeeps learning and doing and achieving success! Your expert tutoring is awesome Mike! And a hearty "Hear Hear" to all the great Amigans that help here on AO! Love your posts Brian! Keep 'em rolling!

BTW, Happy Holidays All... the world over!!!!! I only want two things this year... a gallon of minty eggnog and a ride home!

I Don't NEEEEEEEEEEED to Drink!

Hi gizmo350 lol
                           I need to give Mike a rest so here's a question for you
 After failing to find a Hardrive that shows up on my Amiga 2000 I have a idea ,what if I installed a Buddha and attached a CF card or a ide drive ,do you think that some thing may show up then? just maybe ,or do you think that I would be wasting my money .. lol because the show must go on.very best wishes Brian.:laughing:

[mrmoonlight]

Hi there Brian, well... I just bought a Buddha https://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=486 from AmigaKit. I haven't even got it out of the box yet. But it looks like they're out of stock at the moment. Maybe you ask them if the have "just one more"... that's what I did and they had one! On my next order, I'm going to get one of these TruIDE bad boys... http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=42&products_id=1203 . So with that said, within the next couple of weeks I hope to get time to install the Buddha with a single CF IDE adapter in my A2000. But before that can happen I still need to source a LT1085CM3.3 3.3V voltage regulator and 3 SMD 1N4001 diodes to get my Blizzard 2040 upgraded to an 060 processor (already have the crystal and processor). So your idea is exactly what I'm going try out soon!

Hi gizmo lol I spoke with Amigakit a few nights ago and they have a few that need a few problems sorting out and I should know if I can have one in a couple of weeks ,so here's hoping and good luck with yours my friend ,very best wishes Brian.

[mrmoonlight]

It's a shame there's no more Amiga user's groups around, anymore. Am 100% confident that someone with more experience in SCSI could get your A2091 working perfectly in no time. But if you have money for an IDE solution, go for it. IDE is certainly (comparably) easier than SCSI.

@danbeaver - I love your comments lately.

Hi I do thank you for all the help but I must have set every setting I can and I have checked and checked and looked at your pics which have the identical settings as the pics shown I have looked on the net and booted up with just the hard drive and changed the jumper setting and no joy,
so I will try another direction which might not be the right one ,but a Buddha and a TrueIDE device is my next step ,very best wishes Brian. ps there are 3.1 roms fitted

[mrmoonlight]

i have been following along and just wanted to make sure of one thing.

Mrmoonlight, check for a jumper that says AUTO and DIS by it, it may not be easy to pick out in the picture. make sure the jumper block is set to auto side. if it is not the scsi device wont be loaded from rom and you wont be able to use the hd.

Another important thing, on scsi cables, always use the 2 end connectors, never leave a part of the cable hanging loose not connected to anything.

I am confident we can get this working without you having to buy more hardware(unless hardware is dead). scsi is really superb on lesser powered systems.

 
With the above correct, do you have a way to load sysinfo from a floppy and look in DEVICES to see if scsi.device is there?

Hi if I move the jumper from DIS which is what it was set at,to Auto then the floppy drives don't work and the screen is blank but I can hear the HD

[mrmoonlight]

I didn't say anything original. I just don't want him to loose hope. The A2091 really is one of the better peripheral interfaces and it is a Commodore original, if that's important.

I started out with A500s and then A3000. When I later began updating my first A2000, I was put off by the fact that there was a Kickstart rom AND scsi controller (A2091) rom that had to be considered (usually non-issues with 500s and 3000s). After getting up to speed, the A2000s may now be my favorite everything-in-one box Amiga. My A500 and 3000 have sidecars, auxiliary boxes, and lots of cables and PSes to make complete systems.

Hi have no fear my friend ,it took me 5yrs to get my A1200 and A600 working well and surfing the net and they are now both magnificent machines to use and a great joy ,so I cant let the A2000 get away .,best wishes Brian.