Amiga 2000

[mrmoonlight]

Three inches sounds right -- it is female-to-female; to the best of my knowledge, that is the only card with such an odd power (cable) arrangement.

Thanks for persevering my friend ,I cant try the monitor until the cable arrives but she fired up and all the drives were doing there job so hopefully all is well ,I will let you know when monitor is connected ,but again many thanks ,very best wishes Brian.:laughing:

[mrmoonlight]

Hi the monitor cable came today ,so I installed that and fired the Amiga up ,the floppy is working ,not sure about the HD and I have a whiteish screen ,I have disconnected the hd cables ,just to see if I can get the boot screen and again nothing but white screen and after that I am running out of ideas ,Brian

[mrmoonlight]

Remove all the cards and try again. You should get the "Insert Workbench" disk, at least. If you're using a 1084 or similar, you sure you have it set correctly? Try via composite output, perhaps?

Hi I do get a poor pic if I use composite output ,but it is very poor ,and I am sure every think is set ok as far as I can tell ,as for removing the cards there doesn't seem much more to remove ,but will take   anther look after work, thanks again, Brian.

[mrmoonlight]

So it boots and you're able to see the Workbench screen when it's connected via composite cable? Are you sure whatever monitor you're using is working 100%?

Hi yes I can see the workbench but it would not be possible to use it because of the poor picture,but I am only using the composite cable' and yes it booted fine.

The monitor is connected to two other Amiga computers by a switchable socket and work well,which I removed whilst testing the Amiga 2000 so that one was on its own, I have contacted the seller about the cable and he informs me that the cable was the original for the A2000 and really would be better if I had the other cable which is for the A2000 but has resistor's built in and is the latest one and may give better results ,thanks again, Brian.

[mrmoonlight]

So it boots and you're able to see the Workbench screen when it's connected via composite cable? Are you sure whatever monitor you're using is working 100%?

Hi I have the right skart cable installed now and have a fab pic of floopy drive pic, so put the install disc in and found its not recognising the hard drive lol so does that mean I need to buy another harddrive?

ps yes I did try one off my 1200 only I was not sure if I could do this ,but the other skart works ,but Nothing from the HD

[mrmoonlight]

I'm assuming you don't have any other system you can test the hard drive in? It's possible that the hard drive failed (often happens due to age, being jostled in shipment, etc.). What ROM version does the A2000 have in it? Do you have a Workbench install disk with HDToolbox on it? The Workbench 3.1 Install disk works fabulous for this if the system has a 3.1 ROM.

Hi I only have a A1200 and a A600 and the rom I will have to find where it is lol but I know a rom when I see one ,and I have the new 3.1 disks from Amigakit  and I have tried the workbench install disc and HDToolbox and it shows no drives , there is one good thing and that is it plays floppy games brilliant and I am right pleased ,so its off to find the Rom and then a hd drive ,thanks very much best wishes Brian.

[mrmoonlight]

Hi I only have a A1200 and a A600 and the rom I will have to find where it is lol but I know a rom when I see one ,and I have the new 3.1 disks from Amigakit and I have tried the workbench install disc and HDToolbox and it shows no drives , there is one good thing and that is it plays floppy games brilliant and I am right pleased ,so its off to find the Rom and then a hd drive ,thanks very much best wishes Brian.

ps and yes the rom is 3.1 40.063

[mrmoonlight]

Great! Do you have a 3.1 Install disk? Does the drive not show up at all when you run HDToolbox?

I'm thinking if the drive doesn't show up at all it's possible that it might still be saved. Check that it's spinning up, and you'll need to check your cables and termination.

Alternatively SCSI drives are pretty cheap still on ebay, you might pick up a small one just to test with.

 
 Hi no its not spinning up and I have checked all the cables and no it does not show up on HDToolbox lol  do I have to look for any thing in particle concerning the HD like how many pins etc

[mrmoonlight]

Wait, you said the hard drive is not spinning up? You have the power connector plugged in the right way? Try powering it directly off the A2000 PSU?

Hi I powered up directly from psu and again nothing and cant see  any thing to change on Harddrive ,but will have to have look again in the morning as my eyes are failing with lack of sleep ,thanks so very much for all the help I really appreciated it very best wishes Brian.

[mrmoonlight]

If it is not spinning up at all with real power applied, then it is probably dead; some would say to bang it against something hard to see if that works, but regardless, it is dead or near dead.

Hi I used the psu power lead directly ,the same one that powers the cd player and no not a murmur unless its ultra quite lol  so we have a shop close by who deals in second hand  Harddrives and I will go have a chat with him latter , but apart from that I had a few hours playing games on her last night and really good fun it was too, even if it was by using floppy's, quite responsive and a joy to use ,I also have to say this is where
 
        Amiga org shines because folk like me who only have a limited amount of knowledge would be left at the starting post so thank you Amiga org ,very best wishes Brian.

[mrmoonlight]

Hi I had the Harddrive tested and sure enough it is completely dead ,but after having a closer look at this IBM DSAS-3540 84G8396 Apple ROM 350MB 3.5" 50 Pin SCSI Hard Drive 661-0219 A I am beginning to wonder if its worth fitting one as 350mb is not very much unless the Amiga 2000 will take more and are there any more different makes that will fit that some one might recommend and have model number to go with it as there are not many options in the uk but seems more in the usa
Best wishes Brian.
                                Bars and Pipes ,the A2000 sure plays a merry tune                                
 
 

[mrmoonlight]

Hi Brian

You do have an A2091 HD SCSI interface, right?

Anyway, Quantum may be the easiest brand of hard drive to find. I think Macintosh used these almost exclusively. They range in capacity from a low of about 20MB (rare) upto about 4GB. 4GB is a sort of a default ceiling for Amigas, but there are ways to make larger HDs work. OTOH, 4GB is a virtual ocean of capacity because Amiga files are small and tight compared to modern machines. In truth, a usuable system can be had with any drive greater than about 100MB (room for the OS, a few dozen favorite Apps, and space for some user files). YMMV.

In addition, Quantum drives kept their jumper option scheme pretty simple. There were usually 3 jumpers to determine SCSI address (0 thru 6) and 1 labeled TE (Terminal Enable, set for the last drive in the chain). That's about it. Other manufacturers often included a mind-numbing selection of other jumpers that had to be set correctly to work. It was often difficult to find published Amiga HD requirements versus the options on the drive (parity, error checking, delayed spin, terminal power, etc)

I would guess that about any 50-pin SCSI drive less than 4GB made by Quantum should be pretty painless, provided it still functions.

Hi and thanks ever so much for the info and yes I have a A2091 HD SCSI interface and real glad you mentioned a few possibilities because I have seen a few Quantum drives on Ebay  and that's where I am heading next
  and bit by bit my A2000 is getting better so I am well pleased and grateful to you for your help ,very best wishes Brian.

[mrmoonlight]

Hi I managed to buy this off ebay I hope its the right one
 Quantum - SE21S011 - 2.1GB SCSI 50PIN 5400RPM 3.5" Hard Drive ( 361096154657 )

[mrmoonlight]

Looks good to me, especially if it works.

Now, you have to decide whether to partition or not. If yes, how many partitions and what should their purpose be? Which is your favorite file system? There are worse problems.

Hey please tell me you are joking lol  because I was going to partition it exactly like my A1200 and A600 but using one less partition ,so it would be
    350mb for workbench
    350mb for work
    and what evers left over Games/music lol and you are going to tell me I cant do that lol   and another thing has just crossed my mind how do I get some of the larger files in to my Amiga unless the cd player that's fitted will accept a disc made up on my A1200 and I can transfer them that way ,or is that a no no lol ,thanks again for your help ,very best wishes Brian.

[mrmoonlight]

File system is user's choice but, on such a small drive I would just go with FFS. As far as partitions go, again being only 2GB, I would suggest creating only 2 partitions. One named SYSTEM and one named WORK. Create a partition NO bigger than 512MB for SYSTEM! Trust me on this one!

Hi, I have a new set of os 3.1 which I was going to use lol as they are new ,and do you call system what I call workbench?,Brian:laughing:

[mrmoonlight]

Ha,ha... yes, what you call your "WORKBENCH" partition, I call "SYSTEM" (of course you could name it "GreenSqueekyFarts" if you wanted. :rofl: Not to be confused with "File System" of course being FFS, SFS, Etc... But, you already know all this!!! LOL

LOL
        Hey gizmo you must be confusing me with some one
               who knows what the hell he is doing ,where as
         its more like monkey see ,monkey do.
 but the Amiga 2000 will live again
                    believe you me .lol
           my many thanks to you Brian.