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Why was there nothing after os 3.9?
« on: August 03, 2014, 09:55:12 PM »
Hi I have a slightly souped up Amiga 1200 nothing special just a few small upgrades that make it run os 3.9 brilliantly so why was there nothing after, that may have been really good and still worked on a slightly upgraded Amiga 1200 or is there some thing, best:) wishes Brian.
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Re: Why was there nothing after os 3.9?
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2014, 10:22:12 PM »
Quote from: wawrzon;770203
There is. Google boing bags especially inoficial ones #3 and 4. These are upgrades to 3.9
 
 Hi you are correct there are and I never managed to get both that actually worked so if any one knows where all the good ones are, I would be very grateful, best wishes Brian.:)
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Re: Why was there nothing after os 3.9?
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2014, 06:47:31 PM »
Quote from: Thomas Richter;770232
Simply because it wouldn't be profitable. Look, if you already compare the money I got from Os 3.9 development to what a software developer would get on the market for writing PC software, then this was really a joke. I did it for the fun of it, not for the money. Os 3.9 sold, but given the number of copies it sold it was barely worth the trouble for anyone, including the company that organized its development, namely H&P. Os 4.0 came after 3.9, and the scheme Hyperion seems to be using (as far as I can tell) is to make at least some money on the hardware to finance the software development. Funding a company from Amiga software alone wouldn't simply work anymore - the community is too small, and is not willing to spend enough money on a new release to make this viable.

The only way how this could work would be to use a different development model, probably some open source type model that would give interested parties free access to the sources, plus probably a test farm and a centralized repository, probably with some official net-based releases from time to time that have been verified and tested. It seems, however, that Hyperion (the current license owner of Amiga Os) is not interested in this model - likely because it would compete with their Os 4 development, and hence would diminish their Os 4 sales. I understand and respect this, but it also means that we're trapped with either outdated software, or private hackery based on inaccurate information on how AmigaOs is working - pretty sad, but that's reality.
 
 Hi truly thank you for your honest reply, and can I just point  out I am no way well versed in the Amiga apart from the fact that I think that they are one hell of an amazing computer and when os 3.9 came out the Amiga became a bright star in a very dark sky, so much so the children in my house hold were queuing up   to get on her and that included myself.
          surely this was the time too build on the os 3.9 and begin what would have been os 4.0 and surely the icing on the cake and then any thing really good always sells and we would have had a winner which just maybe would have paid for itself instead there was nothing but boing   bags, and don't get me wrong I appreciate all the effort  that went in to them, but history repeats itself and again we were so near and we let it all slip away, so sad   but 3.9 rolls on ,very best wishes to you, Brian.
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Re: Why was there nothing after os 3.9?
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2014, 07:36:31 PM »
Quote from: amigakid;770260
Is there a way to Purchase OS 3.9? I bought OS 3.5 a long while ago and never upgraded to 3.9. Can I still by a legal original copy of it?
 
 Hi (http://www.amigakit.com), or (http://www.vesalia.de) I am quite sure one of these will have one and I should try (http://www.amigakit.com), first as they don't come much better, best wishes Brian.
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Re: Why was there nothing after os 3.9?
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2014, 07:45:15 PM »
Quote from: gizmo350;770207
Hey Brian, this is the download location recommended by EAB.
http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/start.htm
Hope this helps.
BTW, I used these downloads and IIRC they worked without problems.

The (very long) EAB Thread....
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=52707


 Hi gizmo350 truly grateful my friend, I will give them a go , very best wishes Brian.:):)
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Re: Why was there nothing after os 3.9?
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2014, 07:52:46 PM »
Quote from: magnetic;770280
Mr moonlight
If your a1200 is stable id recommend NOT to install these bb3 and 4.

 LOL  Well I have to say my A1200 and my A600 which are both running os 3.9 are both as stable as a mountain goat and I have not installed any thing yet so I had better hold back me thinks, is there any reason why I should not install them? very best wishes Brian.:)
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Re: Why was there nothing after os 3.9?
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2014, 08:13:06 PM »
Quote from: magnetic;770285
Yes the reason is it could lead to instability which is something you dont need on your fun retro system. Just search EAB for problems ppl have had with these boing patch releases..its like a vintage car if its running perfect dont mess with it!

Well that's that then as I cant risk my fun retro system throwing a wobbly, I sure wish some one will produce a updated os 4.0 now that will make my day, very best wishes Brian.
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Re: Why was there nothing after os 3.9?
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2014, 10:15:19 PM »
Quote from: magnetic;770280
Mr moonlight
If your a1200 is stable id recommend NOT to install these bb3 and 4.

Hi magnetic one day I might stop to listen to some very good advice, as I just had to go and load b3 and b4 and I went from a very stable A1200 to a very none booting sick A1200 and I am awfully glad I made an  emergency   disc that got me back up and running so if ever you hear me mention boing bags again please remind me what an idiot I was ,sorry to the creators of the boing bags I mean no offence on your part as I appreciate how much work you must have put in but no balls for me, very best wishes Brian.:)
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Re: Why was there nothing after os 3.9?
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2014, 11:31:56 PM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;770501
You can please some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but not all the people all the time. They installed great for me, zero issues and I like having my system as "up to date as possible". Obviously with 20+ year old hardware and software, your mileage may vary. Glad you made that backup! ;)

Hi what I did find is that if I left the start up alone it booted fine but if I left the booting up to the program it would never boot up and I have to say I am not good enough to know exactly what was wrong,but I have got the boing bags installed now but with a start up that has not been altered and I have no clue if this is ok lol and happy days I did a back up best wishes Brian.
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Re: Why was there nothing after os 3.9?
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2014, 06:08:47 AM »
Hi I have an Amiga 1200 and I have just installed all four boing bags which I wish I had not as 1and 2 went in fine and 3 and 4 certainly did not as it stopped by computer booting. the only way I could make it run with the boing bags was to completely ignore the start-up sequence that was asking to install automatically or install manually so i did nothing which I did and the Amiga ran wonderfully well but my question is what difference if any will this action mean as in will something that should happen not now happen if you get my drift best wishes Brian.
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Re: Why was there nothing after os 3.9?
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2014, 01:51:16 PM »
Quote from: stefcep2;770709
Make sure you have the latest version of the BB4.

AFAIR you need to boot after installing BB3 before installing BB4.

The new startup- sequences add some patches to the kickstart ROM 3.1. Its likely one of these is causing a conflict. Also some things are added to WBStartup drawer which may be doing the same.
 
 Hi thank you my friend truly grateful for your help, I carefully followed all the literature to the last word using a cold boot when asked too, and bare in mind I installed the boing bags at the same time to both the Amiga 1200 and the Amiga 600 and once the automatic start up had altered the start-up sequence both the 1200 and the 600 failed to boot so having made up emergency boot discs soon had both up and running and started to proceed  with the installation again but choosing not to alter the start up sequence and I have to say both machines are powering along and hard to fault, so I may leave well alone, very best wishes Brian.:):)
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Re: Why was there nothing after os 3.9?
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2014, 02:06:43 PM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;770742
I'm having a really hard time understanding what you're saying here. Not trying to come across like a jerk, but could you use some periods in your sentences? :)

If you're still having trouble, try posting a copy of your startup-sequence and maybe someone here can help you figure out why it's not booting? Another thing I've done before that I found helpful was to put an "echo 1" "echo 2", etc., between each line of the startup-sequence. Then as each line executes it will print a number on the screen. This can help you determine where it's crashing. Good luck! :)

Hey sorry I am not to clear about what's happening but  basically if I install  1 and 2 boing bags then she runs like a dream
 
        but when I install 3 and 4  afterwards she doesn't boot  or if she makes any attempt she crashes so I am going to leave it as it is because she is sweet at the moment, thanks anyway ,best wishes Brian.
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