which is best for music Atari or Amiga

[mrmoonlight]

Hi I already own a really good Amiga 1200 and a nice little Amiga 600 ,but I am very tempted to buy a Atari st  just for the devil of it and was wondering if any one uses one now and could say  which is best for music Atari or Amiga,,best wishes Brian.

[mrmoonlight]

Hi I already own a really good Amiga 1200 and a nice little Amiga 600 ,but I am very tempted to buy a Atari st just for the devil of it and was wondering if any one uses one now and could say which is best for music Atari or Amiga,,best wishes Brian.

Hi I have just read this about how the Atari st was musically tight with its midi arrangements ,{
The winner?
The Atari STe:
The Atari STe is monochrome in 640×480 max res, 8mhz, yes, 8mhz motorola 68000 processor, with 720k floppy drive and no hard drive, external mouse and monitor, a space hog. Doesn?t make noise though.
The timing is super tight with drums, if you put the drums on midi channel 1 and bass on midi 2, and put the hardware for the drums and bass 1 and 2 on the midi out chain, the drums and bass will be super tight. You can throw 170 bpm 32nd and 64th notes at it and doesn?t choke. It?s amazing.
If you are doing aggressive electronic, high temp, or glitchy stuff with hardware, these are the best sequencers. No PC or modern MAC can match it.
How tight is the Atari STe?
Tight to 1ms.  of course this must be talking 20 yrs ago

[mrmoonlight]

Quoting one self is the first sign of madness. Just sayin...

LOL I wonder what the second sigh is ?

[mrmoonlight]

Hi Bloodline ,thanks for your help my friend ,I never thought it would be so complicated lol  and I know the Atari is dated but I would like to try some thing a little different from todays music which to me has become totally dull and lacks imagine nation or it might be me ,hence the dabble with the Atari ,just my thoughts .

[mrmoonlight]

You could always use the superior ST software to control your Amiga by MIDI.

You'd get the best of both worlds then.

 Hi and thank you ,and that's not a bad idea .

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Ral-clan is quite right, Atari music software didn't really get much love after the early 90's... Mostly just updates and bug fixes to existing software, from Steinberg etc...

 
 Hi I do thank every one for there input and I have managed to get a copy of Bars and Pipes for my Amiga ,but I just had to go and get myself the Atari st ,  so I have just bought this ,here's the read up
 
 This is an st on steriods! It is a 520 fm ramped up to 4 meg. It has a 1040 cover on it.
Fully working and not yellowing like most old computers. Pics dont do it justice. Comes with atari mouse, 2 joysticks which i forgot to include in pictures.( only tested one) manuals, power and ed leads, loads of GameS! Not tested every game as that would take ages with this kit! Ones i did try worked fine though.
Boxed Games are
Godfather
Shadoworlds
Elite 2
Battlezone
Railroad tycoon
Leisure %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@! larry
Nigel mansells g.p
Winter olympiad
World soccer
The atari family curriculum.

A bunch of other original games and a whole bunch of quality demo disks with ideas and tasters of some other top titles. A few copied games too.

An awesome package!
  ps Thanks everyone Brian.

[mrmoonlight]

To me it looks Atari was preferred by professionals and Amiga by amateurs :-)

I mean, music productions created on Amiga are mostly mod songs while on Atari some composers got their creations to hit charts.

Thanks very much for the info ,this is one of the songs that the Atari was involved
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 http://youtu.be/lVL-zZnD3VU  here's the tune

This January, musician Jyoti Mishra - aka White Town - recorded "Your Woman" in his bedroom using an old multitrack Tascam and an Atari. Four weeks later, it entered the UK charts at Number One.

[mrmoonlight]

Can't say anything about the Atari since I never had one. But I had tons of fun with my Amiga's going back to the mid-eighties. I pretty much used Deluxe Music on my Amiga for all my compositions and added MIDI-capability with an ECE MIDI interface and Casio CZ-101 synth, and mixed them with an old Radio Shack mixer fed into a Sharp receiver and outputted to my BOSE speakers.

I'd like to eventually output some of that stuff on to modern media so I can upload them to Youtube like this guy:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orF17hcQwOc

lol hey that's me doing the Amiga rock lol mrmoonlight  and now I am going to try some Atari boogie lol Brian.

[mrmoonlight]

Jaakko Salovaara (you probably never heard him) was using Atari to produce dance few hits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JS16

Wow you are right .this is what he said in a interview,he used both the Amiga and the Atari
 
  Why did you choose Cubase as your preferred music production software and how long have you been using it?
When I started back in the late ’80s I had an Amiga 500, which I used as a budget-friendly sampler, and an Atari ST running Cubase, which was controlling various MIDI equipment. It was this setup with a mixture of various synths, mixers and effects with which I made all my records up until 1997. I basically had a loop of 2-32 bars running on the sequencer and I mixed everything live to DAT, taking as many takes as needed, sometimes spending all day on a track, others making five release-worthy tracks a day.

[mrmoonlight]

Hi just had a reply from Jyoti Mishra
and this is what he kindly wrote ,best wishes Brian.


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Yep, it was sequenced entirely on an Atari 520STFM using Sequencer One from Gajits, came free on the cover of ST Format magazine. :-D
 
 Hi just adding a little more
 
           
 What gear did you use to record ‘Your Woman?’
     The gear I used was all pretty old and most of it was secondhand. The total value was just over £2000 (in 1997). This was it:
 * Tascam 688 Midistudio (8-tracks on cassette)
* Atari 520STFM running Sequencer One (free prog off the front of ST Format magazine)
* Emax II (Akais – yeuchh)
* Casio CZ101 (cost 50 pounds)
* Roland JX3P
* Casio VL-1
* Crappy old electric guitar.
 That was also pretty much all I used for the whole of the album, although I did get enough money in early ’97 to move to a digital 8-track (DA38) and get a beautiful Yamaha O2R mixer (swoon).
 My “studio” for ‘Women In Technology’ was my spare bedroom which was approximately 9 feet square. With squeaky floorboards which you can hear on some of the vocal tracks

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http://www.medsoundstudio.webspace.virginmedia.com/infocus/12/focus_Gavin.htm
http://blogtotheoldskool.com/?tag=aphrodite

Well I am impressed  there's a lot of talent on this forum and thanks for the post I will certainly have a longer look later ,very best wishes Brian.:banana:

[mrmoonlight]

Madona working on Ray of Life

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Madona working on Ray of Light
 
 
 Quote .Inspired by motherhood, Hinduism, yoga and a "dwindling" English dance producer, the world’s most successful female singer set about reinventing herself. Armed with a "gaffer-taped" Atari and with her baby daughter manning the mixing desk, Madonna made Ray Of Light.
 
 
 After hearing loads of opinions on both the Amiga and the Atari ,the humble Atari seems to be the choice of some of the best Artists whilst the Amiga which I think is brilliant has been left out in the shade some what ,it will be interesting when my Atari st arrives latter this week what hidden talent's she hides ,very best wishes Brian.

[mrmoonlight]

 If mr moonlight is just wanting to play around with some vintage hardware, then the ST is a reasonable platform... Though I used the ST that's in my cupboard for about 5min, with the copy of cubase that came with it, before getting fed up it. A GUI should have at least 4 colours or everything looks the same! :-(



There were a few chart hits produced on the Amiga back in the day, difference is, the Amiga is still used... The Atari is just a museum piece.

 
 Hi that's not true ,The Atari is not
 just a museum piece ,I have listened to quite a lot of the Atari music ,and I think it sounds ok and there are a lot of folk still using them ,so you cant really say its a  museum piece ,I like the Amiga ,but the Atari has a sound that is interesting and different and in my opinion with todays music ,boy do we need some thing different or should we just put up with another talentless strung together boy/ Girl band ,I hope not ,best wishes Brian.

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An interview with an old Amiga user a few people may know...

Good reading my friend ,enjoyed it very much,best wishes Brian.