When will the A1 / OS 4.0 bundle be available?

[mikeymike]

Yes.

Possibly.

No.

:-)

To add to the first answer, if we knew, there would be news articles all over the place about it.

[mikeymike]

Naeem wrote:
:-)
I like your style Moderator dude.

Just a point, possibly should be directed at Hyperion (they the OS writers, right?), all this hype surrounding the A1/OS4.0 release, coupled with the uncertainty of when, where, and what, people are rekindling their passion for the Amiga and then bogging off and buying a pegasos cos thats out there and established, and does what they want it to do.  They are more interested in Amiga how it is / was rather than the new A1 platform (I guess is what I'm trying to say :-) )
In a way the official amiga is becoming the nectar for a Pegasos Venus Flytrap.  Ahem.

What do you suggest Hyperion should be doing instead?  Suggest 'port OS4 to Pegasos' and you will get a slap! :-)

If I was in OS4.0 marketing I would put out an official (heavily optimistic) release date out there from the off and have boards going out with the pre-rel.  Just to cash in on my own hype.

That's a tad unscrupulous, and it was precisely what Amiga Inc did, and Hyperion's reputation took a hit because of it.

Incidentally where can I buy a board from?  I would like a PPC linux box anyways.

There are AFAIK several suppliers of AmigaOne/boards worldwide.  www.eyetech.co.uk is the centre one, they're based in the UK.

[mikeymike]

The Morphos team went to all the trouble to reverse engineer the 68k AmigaOS, can't they do the same with OS4?

Potential legal conflict.  I'm not a lawyer, I don't know.  Let's not have a load of responses where people pretend they are lawyers, please.

[mikeymike]

With a bit of effort Morphos could be more OS4 compatabile than OS4

Apart from that being a rather stupid comment

Please guys, let's keep this civil.

[mikeymike]

Regarding OS4 and the Pegasos, if it happens, it happens.  

Opinions of people who aren't employed at the companies are purely conjecture, or are basing their opinions on second/third-hand information (which may or may not be true at all) after a game of biased Chinese whispers, it's all a bit pointless really.

As for people who come in to take pot-shots of "nothing's changed", yeah, whatever.  There can only be one reason why you'd bother saying it, and that is to troll.  I'd prefer it if you didn't bother.  If  such people continue these little games, I will moderate their posts.

[mikeymike]

@ JKD

Points well-made.  I agree with one or two of them :-)

I think that Hyperion are probably using the best strategy they can.  A combination of a new product for a limited audience, the product needs to be tested by that limited audience for the product's sake as well as for business reasons.  There is little point in doing a massive advertising campaign to target non-Amiga users because other than the OS what else is there to offer currently.

I think the takeup that Hyperion is expecting, eg. limited but steady increase, is realistic with the right amount of optimism.  Bear in mind optimism has been a requirement from the start of the OS4 project, given the Amiga's history.

I think once OS4 is released, Eyetech/Hyperion should get it out to techie media reviewers, pushing it from a "this is the new start for Amiga, the first milestone" perspective.  Trying to compare the viability of OS4 to other more established operating systems wouldn't go well for OS4, but to say "a better version of this, plus some decent supporting software, is what we want to be showing you in a few years' time", would be a good plan.