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Re: X-Surf II, what a scam...
« on: March 21, 2004, 02:24:01 PM »
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Hell, the x86 market might be cut throat, and cheap, cheap, cheap, but I tend to find more honest people in it then the Amiga market.


There are swings and roundabouts here.  The PC hardware market suffers *badly* from cheapo, crap, not-well-QA'd hardware.  It also makes it extremely difficult for new companies to get in on a market where a product (say a graphics card) has had a good few billion dollars poured into R&D then sold for less than $100.

Now if someone could design a card that cost $5 to make (all costs included), they'd have to be extremely stupid to try and sell it for $150 when it's a much easier sell at say $50.  Anyone in business knows that it is far better to have 20 customers paying you $5 for a product than 5 customers each paying you $20.  Word of mouth sales.  Greater confidence in the market because more people have seen the product work.

The Amiga has a technical problem though (business/community/history issues aside).  A big range of stock computers that haven't varied much over time.  There isn't much incentive for someone with an expanded A2000 to start all over again with an A4000.  So (for example) a network card can't be sold that will fit in all Amigas, so the size of the potential number of sales drops sharply.

I bet the price of that network card is justified.  Justified in that it can't be mass-produced due to lack of funds, nor is there a reasonable-sized market to sell it to, or there might be an issue where not enough funding has gone into it to ensure it can be mass-produced cheaply.
 

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Re: X-Surf II, what a scam...
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2004, 02:25:02 PM »
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Unless of course you try to beat competition by releasing huge quantities of FUD and disinformation against your competitors...

Was it really necessary to include this?
This kind of statement really does not help anybody and certainly does not assist an already troubled community


I'm not sure KennyR can help it.
 

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Re: X-Surf II, what a scam...
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2004, 02:39:42 PM »
It may be true, but that doesn't draw away from the fact that you like to draw attention to it more often than not :-)
 

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Re: X-Surf II, what a scam...
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2004, 03:45:10 PM »
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It would be if I was better at electronics, wasn't at full time univerisity and didn't have to work in my spare time.


So in short, you would do this if you had any idea how to do it?

Perhaps the 'get rich quick' spams might yield the opportunities you need to set up such a venture?
 

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Re: X-Surf II, what a scam...
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2004, 04:04:18 PM »
@ NightShade737

Your argument does not make any sense.  First you admit to a lack of electronics knowledge, you don't put up any logic to back up your argument, imply a lack of business experience, then you fall back on a lame excuse that is supposed to 'finish off your argument nicely'.

All electronic products are really expensive when they first come on the market.  The cost is driven down mainly due to the amount of units sold, and partially down to product delivery efficiency.  Amiga hardware does not have a large amount of customers, nor does it have funding to drive the cost of production down.  So it stays at the price that it came on the market at.

Mobile phones would be really expensive still if there hadn't been a phenomenal amount of sales done.  Mobile phone companies took chances (but based on a real potential to sell in large amounts, unlike the Amiga hardware market), and they paid off.