amigaone cpu ??

[mikeymike]

I like the idea of using a CPU that doesn't require a heatsink that weighs more than every other component in the system put together :-)

[mikeymike]

My PC noise problems should all be over when I upgrade to the AthlonXP 2400+ (2GHz), nice new core CPU that *actually* runs cooler, so nice low speed fan in there too :-)

Damn Palomino core AthlonXP... evil.

[mikeymike]

@ KennyR

I installed Win311 on my system between OS reinstalls for laughs, and Win311 took ~6 seconds to finish loading from the moment I hit enter on win.com.

But anyway, Win95 is a PITA to get into shape to have an Internet connection and not get blown off the net within minutes, Win311 even more so.

[mikeymike]

@ mdma

Including BIOS post will bring extremely erratic results across the board.  Some PCs get past BIOS POST so quickly that the monitor won't have had time to warm up, while others wait ages.  That's entirely down to what the manufacturer prefers.

I'm not trying to compare AmigaOS and Windows boot times, I know it's a futile exercise, but someone said "Windows 3.11" which isn't really an OS in itself as it sits on top of MS-DOS 6.22 (if anyone starts saying that all versions of WIndows sit on top of MS-DOS they're going to get slapped!), and so the context was how quickly Windows takes to start.  By default, Win311 won't automatically start once MS-DOS has finished loading as well.

@ the thread in general

How on earth did we get onto OS boot times when talking about x86 versus PPC anyway?  What has that got to do with the price of fish?  Personally I prefer a longer booting time in exchange for more things of my choice cached, hence the reason why my PC loads a 256MB recoverable ramdisk on startup, which adds a significant amount to the boot time! :-)

Anyway, as for the argument, x86 versus PPC, that has been going on since the dawn of time and I don't thank whoever brought it up *again*, but there are plenty of reasons to *stay* PPC, mainly because Amiga has *already* gone to PPC.  Other than that, I would prefer a slower, cooler and quieter system to a faster, noisy and annoyingly hot-running system.  From first-hand experience.  Then there's "why not", after that there's "Windows owns x86 already, let's not also try to compete on that platform", then there's "if the Amiga market expands significantly, then PPC prices will come down, and maybe development of the architecture will speed up", and then there's "let's not start this argument ever again, please!"

[mikeymike]

If you want your Windows installation to fly, stick loads of RAM (1GB or more) in your PC

Or just CONFIGURE IT PROPERLY.

[mikeymike]

That would say very little for HyperOS if it did, considering a OS running off a hard disk versus off a ramdisk :-)

But 'acceptable performance' is what is being looked for by most people, and most people do not know even the basics of getting decent performance out of Windows ("Should they have to learn so much about it?" is a good question), yet they'll still complain about it till kingdom come.

And as for the buffoons on comp.sys.amiga.advocacy who claim that their 060-based Amiga is somehow better, more responsive, whatever (hardware wise particularly) and faster than an up-to-date, decent spec PC...gawd.

[mikeymike]

@ jeffimix

I skimmed this last page but... PPC is just fine, so what if it costs a bit more(several hndred bucks), computers aren't something normal people buy a lot of. Besides if sheeple can be made to buy Windows instead of getting Linux for much less, who says we can't get away with larger prices?

Almost a fair point, but for one big problem.  Microsoft have such a strangle-hold on OEMs still that PCs *must* have Windows installed on them.  If OEMs want to ship Windows or any MS software at all, then they face this problem.

[mikeymike]

@ Hammer

Just get Windows 3.11 installation, which fits in a single floppy and install on the hard disk.

Last I checked, Win311 install takes more than one disk.  I think 6 or 8, but I'd have to dig out my install disks from *somewhere* in the house :-)

[mikeymike]

Gawd, and Win311 comes on high density floppy disks.  I'm looking at them right now, 8 of them!  Microsoft written along the top in grey, Microsoft Windows for Workgroups written down the left side, copyright 1985 - 1993 Microsoft Corporation, All Your Rights Are Belong To Us written at the bottom!

(well, maybe I lied about the last bit)