The X1000 will be > $2,225

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Much ado about "NOTHING" (really), that quoted price is from user Tommo1975 and on the same thread there is user djRikki (later on) that says he heard less than 1500 eur but that the price is subject to change.

Which basically means they are responding with a little confusion.

But I'll give you another piece too: Balmer used to state things that  were later corrected and in fact today (this morning  actually) Hyperion MP at AW wrote:


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Pricing  is very indicative yet at this stage and certainly not set in stone.   We still need to go through the exercise of cost shaving.  We certainly  expect to realize some savings on peripherals and some components.   Because of the very volatile currency markets, it is very hard to nail  this down now.

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@dammy
Hyperionmp quote at (my) post 42 is what they clarified this morning.

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@Karlos
sounds reasonable, but what if a better deal comes up and they save some money? Trevor couldn't know that yesterday right? and  then the other statement I posted was made afterward, in any case, I believe they WILL try to shave it as much as they can, but to really know we can only wait and see as the only official reply (not "estimate" those can change with new deals) was "I DON'T KNOW"

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@drHirudo
I didn't mean that, they can save on bulk orders of several other parts, even Verisys might get better deals for certain mobo parts, anyway, we know they'll look into it...

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I don't want to sound like I'm peeing on your cornflakes but there are a lot of "what if's" here. At best, perhaps the 1500 figure was his best guess. It would be nice to think that the X1000 will be available for less than 1500 when released but I wouldn't advise people pin their hopes on it.

the "what ifs" (for how minor they might be) were introduced by Hyperionmp statement made this morning, and I think the now classic 1500 stance is what to expect, but alas we cannot argue on the "wait and see" situation.

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@Piru
Boing Ball (NOT a sticker)-------------------------------AmigaONE logo is well done too

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The keyboard is a flimsy looking el cheapo one. The "amigaone" decal looks like some rubbery thing that has adhesive for attaching. Many companies use these to "brand" their products, such as no-name chinese laptops. It looks cheesy.

The "boing" keys look out of place. What happened to the amiga A mark anyway?

Well, it's no logitech £80 monster, but i don't buy those for my pc, and this one still manages to avoid reminding me they don't make keyboards for the system I use (they actually do now) and so if I want I am not forced to use apple or ms ones with windows logos.
In any case the others work on the X1000 as well, choice is good.

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@DAX

Big mistake have an alien boing ball mark there. Real Amiga keyboards had an italic "A" and/or C=. And it is not even Amiga branded but some obscure AmigaOne brand.

If they made proper Amiga keyboards I would happily by one for my Mac.

If you want i have a spare one here for the A2000, they work with adapters...

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Sorry but two things:

This piece of hardware isnt an Amiga (amiga is a500, a1200, cd32...) its under the name amigaone.

If people dont like the price they can give an opinion, theres more opinion than yours sorry.

Mighty wrong.
The models you named are old products made by the company that happened to have the ball at the time, Commodore, which by the way, got the ball by paying money to get that stuff from Miner/Morse company.

That company happened to fail, and they sold to Escom than to Gateway than to Amiga Inc (simplifying) the latter is the actual owners of the ball and they decide what's what.

A few years ago they decided to divide their new Amiga products in 2 lines, their "De/Anywhere" ideas, and a more classic rendition of the platform AmigaOS running on computers called AmigaOne.

After a series of distputes they handed the second part to Hyperion in last september settlement, so these are official Amiga next generation projects (as opposed to the abandoned retro computers you mentioned).

If you have proof such as (legal documents) prooving otherwise I will be happy to take a look at them.

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TMHM

By the way, they can call it Amiga OS it's in the settlement, so you might very well see Amiga OS 5 as their next major iteration (think of how that will make you nervous :lol:)

As for your usual I buy 2 million emacs, go on, I suggest you open a money savvy business in a third world country, as for what's better, ensuring some dignity to Amiga with HW specifically done for it, is the way to go, as it will lead to good things in the future.

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As far as I can read not all rights were transferred.

I did't say Hyperion is now AmigaInc, just that the second part of their business plan (classic rendition of the platform as AmigaOne+AmigaOS) has been legally handed over to Hyperion.

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@tokyoracer
I wrote this in another thread but it seems quite fit here as well: OCS/AGA by 1992 were nothing special anymore, J Miner himself  replyed to a question in an interview (at the A4000 launch) that for pro apps on his 2 A2000s he needed RTG cards and  couldn't understand why they didn't do anything like it in the A4000.  AAA was admitted as being too little too late by many Commodore engineers, who also wrote a long paper as to how Amiga would develop  after AAA, and if you read it you will see the X1000 is what they  describe (I kid you not).

This is as "different" as it gets for todays standards, times where GPUs are everything (or are becoming so), and quite frankly even if Commodore would still be alive there would be no Amiga "as you remember it" if that amiga is the 1985 raster graphics console (then made computer). Time changes, ces't la vie.

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@mikeymike

The article you reference speaks of an OpenOffice port for the X1000.  Is this something "official" or just another rumor.  I can't find anything that states that Hyperion is working on an OpenOffice port.  Just a vague statement from Trevor Dickinson on the Obligement web site that it's being ported as a "Lite" version or a version for "kids".  $2225 for a system with a crippled version of Open Office and an an alpha version of Firefox is a joke.  Why would anyone pay good money for that?.....PT Barnum was right.  There's a sucker born every minute.

The only jokes around are the people that still do not understand this machine is not aimed at Amigans at large but a small population of developers and PowerUsers (read: enthusiast with enough money or "will"). It only serves as a vehicle for the first, to evolve the platform, and it's just a first step.

@roomeo
OS4 might get a seamless/trasparent OCS/AGA emulation layer invisible to the end users, it already has external utilities for that, it only needs to be integrated inside the OS. We'll see what happens.

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@DAX

There are probably only 10 Amiga PowerUsers left on the planet and most of them are employed by Hyperion.  Not a model of success, even for a "PowerUser" market.

And PowerUsers who only have an alpha version of Firefox and a vapor port of Open Office?  They must have self-delusions of grandeur.

TD said in the week end they have 150 people that want to beta test the system, with many (like me) waiting for the fully boxed product.
They will match what their aiming for, and as i said this is a first step.

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Okay, so where have these developers been hiding for the past six years? Are you saying they refused to buy the A1 and the SAM because they weren't priced *high* enough?

AmigaOS development in the past 6 years has been spotty at best, Rogue over at AWs said many times they didn't want their work to be lost (ie: handed over for nothing).
Settlement has been signed a few months ago and both AOS Core Developers and aficionados devs, are tapping at the keyboard way more than in the past.
Let's see what happens now that both SW and HW are under control (a situation we never had unitll now).