Charvers, breakins, theft and a broken window...

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@the_leander
how would they know that YOU have called the police?
Can't that be done fully anonymous?

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rule no#1: don't do that (if you know they are charvers)

but maybe others have complained about it too (or ask them to complain about it, ask half the neighbourhood to complain about 'em, organise anonimously! :-))

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KennyR wrote:

Speel wrote:
rule no#1: don't do that (if you know they are charvers)

First thing the police do when you call them is ask, "Well, did you TALK to them first before calling us?"

Hm, well, here in nl, it's really not that way. OUR police understand such, I've seen this on both sides (yup, us scouts are sometimes a bit too enthusiastic, but we still have the decency to stop our noise when there's being complained about it)
You're sure you're not acting on assumptions?

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that_punk_guy wrote:
I'm just dying for some chav scum to start something with me when I'm walking home with my steel toe-caps on. Can you imagine the satisfaction of planting that up someone's backside? :lol:

I don't have to imagine it, only remember it

kicked/punched charvers more than once (they asked for it)
 :-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D

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whabang wrote:
According to my own experience, they come back in packs if you're too rough on them.

I've seen it also vice versa. (some chavs bullying the younger ones, younger ones say it to us, we come to those chavs, then chavs offering their sincere apologies to the younger ones)
Scouting gives a different turn to everything :-).

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KennyR wrote:
Chavs never apologise. And I mean never.

not out of free will that is..

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but it was satisfying for the younger ones to see 'em humiliated

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T_Bone wrote:
People who don't have to work have very little respect for those that do.

bollocks.
Most ppl who do not work are dying to actually get a job. Not everyone has the opportunity/skills/resources to start an enterprise. I've talked to many ppl who have other skills, and are unemployed. Their skills vary from psychology to terraforming. They're in big debts because of their study, and they're doing every available lousy job, like cleaning, and they can live from it, but not pay their debts of it (let alone start an enterprise).
It seems you're quite happy with the fact that it's only up to ppl with rich parents to be able to study and start enterprises. I do not see the equal chance in that.

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@T-Bone
Then I've said nothing
But let it be clear that one unemployed is NOT the other.

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No, it's science about the structure of soil, for mining or oil/gas drilling purposes. I did not exactly knew the English word for it.

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@Cyberus
Making generalizations is quite a harmfull thing to do I think.
In this case, I accuse you of doing such.
Not that I do not like you, but I'll explain you why I think this:
'lower jobs' a lower job can be a graduate school teacher, but I do not see a university professor capable of being a graduate school teacher, for instance.
I mean, you still have to have the appropriate skill for many 'lower jobs'.
Plus, yes there IS often lack of work, even cleaning work or alike. And these kinds of jobs are often also just temporarily and you cannot really live from it.
When there's been cut in the unemployment money, people can't afford another study (when they notice the job market for their degree is marginal) to get out of their situation. Also, emigrating is a tough choice, and it does not give a guarantee for work either, plus such must be paid also (while many already do have a huge study debt).

ok leute you can all wake up now

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It's alike if one thief is between us, that thief is a problem, but it doesn't meen we are a problem.

The latter is too often abused.

And are we speaking of a minority or a majority who do wrong stuff? And should others be victim of these?
I like genuine problems being adressed, but in the right proportions in the right context, in other words, all aspects need to be adressed of the subject. Otherwise ppl won't get a clear view and goin' to condemn the whole thing.

gee, I think I am this