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Re: Dead at 42
« Reply #14 from previous page: April 19, 2004, 10:39:56 PM »
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Bad genes can cause evolution changes.
It's the experiment grounds.


Just by being there? No way. They've got to apply a disadvantage that gets the creature killed or unable to mate.
I mean, producing 'bad' genes.
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Re: Dead at 42
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2004, 10:43:13 PM »
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I don't like the term evolution anyway, although in a scientific context it is correct, modern use of the word has altered it's meaning. We should use the terms "Natural Selection" and "Artificial Selection".

'selection' is a bad bad word for it.
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let the creationists commence!
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Re: Dead at 42
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2004, 10:21:52 AM »
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I mean, producing 'bad' genes.

There is no evolution without need
Yes, but evolution has to begin somewhere doesn't it?
The more a specie experiments with it's genes, the more it is likely that it adapts more quickly to it's environment. I think that can be seen as necessary.
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Re: Dead at 42
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2004, 08:51:23 PM »
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A Welfare state/society eliminates the pressure for an organism to adapt to it's surroundings. Thus natural selection cannot occur, the natural selecting factors are removed.
A welfare state/society is an adaptation of an organism to adapt to it's surroundings. The natural selection is goin' on on the state/society level. It's going on that way thousands of years already.
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Re: Dead at 42
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2004, 09:53:09 PM »
Well, humans have to fit socially in society (and vice versa).
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Re: Dead at 42
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2004, 11:29:02 PM »
How do you mean?
What I say is that the 'artificial' society should be seen as a part of human evolution. And this society is evolving too.
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Re: Dead at 42
« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2004, 12:21:28 AM »
Well, it must be I think. Society has an incredible influence on how people live and eat and so.

For instance, the black death was a 'cultural disease'. And it had a great influence on culture either, because according to some historians and scientists, this event has led to enlightment.
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Re: Dead at 42
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2004, 09:38:15 PM »
1/3 of the population from western Europe to India died of the plague. That has some impact on both economy as well as lifestyle.
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Re: Dead at 42
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2004, 12:21:13 PM »
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The price of perfection is too high.

I am perfect as I am. So are you.
If we were going to extinct, we wouldn't be perfect (anymore)
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